Deep in Sunday Brawl

[CounterfeitKing]

3) I thought flatting this raise size is pretty unexploitable. If he shoves, he has to have better right? So the plan is to call/fold to BB shove. However once it actually happens and I have a third of my stack out there finding that fold button can prove difficult

OK now put yourself in BB's position. From what we know he is a v. good player (although granted you may not have known this at the time), this essentially means he knows all the aforementioned considerations you're making, crucially, that "if he shoves he has to have better". He is capable of out-thinking you here and you're effectively getting pwned. The fact that you tanked makes this a very easy shove for him with maybe ATC given his chip stack.

IF you feel compelled to play the 66 you have to shove here, it is by definition unexploitable. If you happen to run into a monster GG but at least you haven't been outplayed, you've gotten unfortunate. But as I said before imo it's better to pass here and find a better spot.

[George2Loose]

Ok What actually happened:


Full Tilt Poker Game #16408805840: The Sunday Brawl (117197593), Table 23 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:21:10 ET - 2009/11/29
Seat 1: ProbBluffingYou (213,029)
Seat 2: YOUTH_666 (248,344)
Seat 3: YrrsiNN (79,822)
Seat 4: BallsNL (57,994)
Seat 5: mymoneyunoit (80,213)
Seat 6: EIephant (158,033)
Seat 7: George2Loose (223,878)
Seat 8: BKiCe (461,711)
Seat 9: McNallyville (82,498)
ProbBluffingYou antes 600
YOUTH_666 antes 600
YrrsiNN antes 600
BallsNL antes 600
mymoneyunoit antes 600
EIephant antes 600
George2Loose antes 600
BKiCe antes 600
McNallyville antes 600
George2Loose posts the small blind of 2,500
BKiCe posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
McNallyville folds
ProbBluffingYou folds
YOUTH_666 folds
CharlieLee (Observer): lol flipaments
YrrsiNN raises to 79,222, and is all in
BallsNL folds
mymoneyunoit folds
EIephant folds
George2Loose raises to 223,278, and is all in
BKiCe calls 218,278
George2Loose shows [ ]
BKiCe shows [ ]
YrrsiNN shows [ ]
BKqzbxt (Observer): hold
*** FLOP *** [td ]
ShIpItNIT (Observer): kkkkkkkkkkkkk
*** TURN *** [td ] []
ShIpItNIT (Observer): KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
*** RIVER *** [td ] []
George2Loose shows a pair of Sixes
BKiCe shows a pair of Kings
BKiCe wins the side pot (288,112) with a pair of Kings
YrrsiNN shows two pair, Aces and Queens
YrrsiNN wins the main pot (243,066) with two pair, Aces and Queens
pez102 (Observer): yeah like actual god
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 531,178 Main pot 243,066. Side pot 288,112. | Rake 0
Board: [td ]
Seat 1: ProbBluffingYou folded before the Flop
Seat 2: YOUTH_666 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: YrrsiNN showed [ ] and won (243,066) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 4: BallsNL folded before the Flop
Seat 5: mymoneyunoit folded before the Flop
Seat 6: EIephant (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: George2Loose (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: BKiCe (big blind) showed [ ] and won (288,112) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: McNallyville folded before the Flop

I discussed this with Neil and said he woudl call/fold. I think, with hindsight, this was a fold but I have an inkling I'm being swayed by results. Had Bkice folded, and I lose the flip, I probably wouldn't give this a second thought.

I was pretty pissed off as I'd built my stack without showdown. FWIW Bkice finished 6th and villiian managed to get 2nd. MBN

[outragous76]

Nice fake btw -v good

I think against a solid player I fold for your reasons

If I knew him and his game I prob tank call

I really don't think this is all that bad - you just need to run like blatch and bink!

[Sack it off]

Do you have an edge over your table? Or do you feel like you're on a table with Hitthehole?

lol if i could pick one reg to be deep in the brawl with, its defo middy!

Was just one of the MTT players I knew everyone respects.

You can put in the place of Hitthehole anything you like, however 'Darvin Moon' will not be accepted.