Winning the max

[zerofive]

you must have lost the hand to post this Sean?  

I'm more balanced than you think. I win some hands I post in PHA. Sometimes just feel like my thought processes are miles off.

[dreenie]

All in

why?

Because Zerofive has stated that he thinks the guy is a experienced player, so imo from his info he has a understanding of the game.. Obv not any hands played together etc.

U have bet £23 he makes it £48, screams strength to me, what's he bluffing with? If he has a 78/56 them sort of hands, he can call and re evaluate, bare ace, same thing, the 86 he might just call, or he can raise therefore u have Ur customer, I think he has either 75 or 55 or 86, therefore if he is drawing make him pay, and if he has a hand then it's going in anyway. Don't think on this board he is gonna bluff, if he is bluffing what's he trying to make you fold on this texture? I would just be thinking what he trying to think and lean more towards strength.

And secondly, if there is a chance he is semi bluffing, or weak aces etc, I actually think by playing it this way, u can get him to call u real light, as, if u had AA or AK/AQ or some other strong hand, many players would expect u to flat, this way u disguise your hand and get paid if he wants to be a hero.

If I was playing a fruitcake (someone like me), then yeah by all means flat and let them set fire to there money.

I also like to use those 2 words "ALL IN" whilst playing poker frequently.

[Mondeoman]

Anything other than calling seems pretty bad IMO.  Made hands you stack regardless, if he's decided to play a draw aggressively he's prob going to barrel turn ( and if he checks turn you can check back/bet small to induce etc), if he is raising for info give him a chance to improve his weakish made hand, if he's raising a weak draw (I.e. Back door flush/ gunshot/bottom pair) give him a chance to see a turn card which may give him a bit more equity and encourage him to put the rest of his chips in.  If he has a total bluff which does happen now and again raising loses your customer.
By flatting you are not turning your hand face up - do you never flat a raise on a draw?
Basically you want your hand to look as weak as possible to convey maximum weakness you can fold (not recommended), moderate weakness - call,  minimum weakness raise.

[SuuPRlim]

to convey maximum weakness you can fold

yh, they'll never see this one coming.

[dreenie]

Anything other than calling seems pretty bad IMO.  Made hands you stack regardless, if he's decided to play a draw aggressively he's prob going to barrel turn ( and if he checks turn you can check back/bet small to induce etc), if he is raising for info give him a chance to improve his weakish made hand, if he's raising a weak draw (I.e. Back door flush/ gunshot/bottom pair) give him a chance to see a turn card which may give him a bit more equity and encourage him to put the rest of his chips in.  If he has a total bluff which does happen now and again raising loses your customer.
By flatting you are not turning your hand face up - do you never flat a raise on a draw?
Basically you want your hand to look as weak as possible to convey maximum weakness you can fold (not recommended), moderate weakness - call,  minimum weakness raise.

I do get what your saying, and the statement makes sense. I still stand by sometimes in different situations vs different players, I will play it the way I said above. For example if I'm playing someone of your standard or lets say Alex, someone like that, I like the shove as you will rarely be putting me on this hand, and a lot of the time will pay it off. If I just flat the flop, are u just getting it in regardless with weaker hands? small Ax 5x 7x hands etc?, surely this is just burning money?, and if u are playing vs someone that knows what they are doing, by them flatting, they usually have it. I find being in front of the person is a massive advantage, so this would always be played depending on the player. Online, I agree, flat and let them fire off on the turn, as you have no other info except there raise.

[skolsuper]

Yes a good villain can be 90% sure you're not folding if you flat here. However they can be 100% sure you're not folding if you shove.

[kinboshi]

Yes a good villain can be 90% sure you're not folding if you flat here. However they can be 100% sure you're not folding if you shove.

You 'might' fold...

[dreenie]

Yes a good villain can be 90% sure you're not folding if you flat here. However they can be 100% sure you're not folding if you shove.

looooool, love you xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[pleno1]

Yes a good villain can be 90% sure you're not folding if you flat here. However they can be 100% sure you're not folding if you shove.

brilliant.