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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2006, 03:06:14 AM »

It's not the passive fish I have to worry about charging here.
If he's not going to make a move on the pot when he doesn't hit, then I can wait and see in the knowledge that if he bets, he has it.

Against a loose aggressive player, I need to bet that turn though. Else run the risk of getting pushed off my aces by a missed draw.

I didn't know what he was, hence the controversial desicion.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2006, 03:08:24 AM »

I think enough draws are here to bet the turn. You dont find anything out by checking and he gets a free card.

The problem with betting the turn is it'll be an awkward sized bet. Gotta be big, but do you wanna commit?
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2006, 03:09:39 AM »

I didn't know what he was, hence the controversial desicion.

Well you know now  Wink
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2006, 04:08:13 AM »

Not the way i play. Tank was doing all the betting for him to keep flat calling. if i had the Jack on the flop i would have wanted to see what tank done first since he was the raiser, then with the Jack on the turn, I would continue to let him bet into it..

We all play very differently..A good thing i'm sure

So on the flop the pot is about 1k after tank bets, its 500 to call, tank has 740 back, if he thinks the J is ahead he is shipping it in right there and then. Why does he want to give tank the chance to catch? I think maybe 5% of the time he has the jack and so i move in on the turn every time.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2006, 04:24:58 AM »

Without prior knowledge of the passivity of my opponent I think I'm coming round to betting the turn here next time.

Thanks for all your comments
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2006, 05:17:27 AM »

If he has you beat he has you beat. He will probably put u in on the river if he does and given the pot size and the size of your stack  this will be very difficult to fold with the possibility he is bluffing a missed draw.

Bet the turn.

Pretty unlikely he has a jack given the action so far. He checks the flop then calls a bet on a draw heavy board. I think a jack bets out, or if he checks and you bet, he checks a jack in order to check raise which he didnt do. More likely to be a draw than a made hand, occasionally u will get your chips in with 2 or fewer outs, the majority of the time u are charging draws to pay an incorrect price.

Checking isn't good as u dont save chips, except on the occasions when he hits his draw on the river and you make a fold.

Even when he misses, soemtimes another scare card falls and it will be tough to value bet with ilimited info.

STICK EM IN STICK EM IN!

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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2006, 10:24:46 AM »

I am betting the turn for a different reason to most. You are going to find passing these Aces pretty difficult with your chip count even after the river so certainly allowing any more draws would be dangerous. However, since I know that I am only going to get him in first on a total bluff or if he is made on the river, then I want them in while I believ that I am still in front and to make sure I don't give him an excuse to not pay me off if he misses a draw. Put em in on the turn and claim the additional chips. If he has the Jack you will occasionally pay him, but he is not passing when he has plenty back and can win a big pot whilst knocking you out. Therefore its more of a value bet and you will now have more chips than him and can dominate his position, making it easier to win the whole thing.
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2006, 10:25:35 AM »

Just read my last post - sounds a bit garbled, but I am sure that you get the point Wink
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