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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2013, 03:21:39 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2013, 10:48:59 AM »

Ive been noticing recently a lot of stake threads are not getting staked at all or not making their percentages. Used to be that it was like an early morning bakery over there. Are people fed up with punting? Is it bad value overall, with only the fairest prices and the best names get staked?......

Morning Mr Blue.

4 replies were basically "people are under it", & that may or may not be true, but I don't believe that is the answer at all.  

I actually think you asked a question which was, inadvertently I'm sure, misleading, & people responded accordingly. You suggested this....

Ive been noticing recently a lot of stake threads are not getting staked at all or not making their percentages

It was a sort of leading question, but lets look at some facts.

We have two Staking Boards, being "Online" & "Live".

In "Online", as far as I can see, the last TEN Staking Threads all sold out. They came from a mix of players, from "top" Online guys like Rick Trigg & Dan Carter, (over $6,000 requested by those two & snapped up quickly) down to regular & small-ball guys. They were all, however you may phrase it, sensibly priced, & were all from regular blondes, who Post right across the Forum. The last point is key - blondes like to stake regular blondes, but are slightly sussy of relative newbies, or those who don't much use the Forum for regular stuff.

In "Live", of the last ten Staking Threads, EIGHT sold out very quickly. Again, a broad range of players, from "top" lads like Alex, Thewy & Plenners, then through all levels down to fairly "small" players, & all sensibly priced.

The other two are worth looking at, to see why.

One of the two was from Alex, who, on the first occasion, perhaps pitched it a bit high. Once he adjusted his sights, it sold out quickly.

The other was from "hotdog", & got no responses at all. Those who use that Staking Board regularly could have predicted exactly that. I & we don't have any problem with hotdog, not at all, but it has to be said, it was never likely to sell, for a variety of reasons. The OP was not the best, & hotdog only uses the Forum in a very limited way, & is not known  - yet - by many here. I actually know him from 5 or 6 years back, as a young Walsall regular, & he is a fine young man, with no shortage of self-confidence & belief in his ability. But hardly anyone here knows him, & he has not put himself about across the wider community. If he addressed those areas, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to sell.

People like to stake top players, at decent prices, but mostly, we like to stake peeps we know, who are mates, or "known" blondes.

I've mentioned, I thnk, 20 threads across the two Boards, of which 18 sold out quickly, so a 90% success rate, & there were good reasons why the other two did not sell, one was subsequently amended & sold out quickly.

So, my take is that the original question was (unintentionally) flawed, it was a sort of erroneous leading question, & from that, several lads walked into the trap & said "folks are under it".

Many people ARE under it, but a 90% success rate, over an admittedly small sample size (20), does not suggest to me that requested stakes are not getting sold.

Delve through the Staking Boards over a longer period to get a better sample size, & I'd be very surprised if the "SOLD OUT" % ever dipped below 90.

I DO think the OP's are, generally, much better these days than, say, 12 or 18 months ago, as we've had some "Staking Police" which has helped matters.  
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2013, 01:15:52 PM »

Ive been noticing recently a lot of stake threads are not getting staked at all or not making their percentages. Used to be that it was like an early morning bakery over there. Are people fed up with punting? Is it bad value overall, with only the fairest prices and the best names get staked?......

Morning Mr Blue.

4 replies were basically "people are under it", & that may or may not be true, but I don't believe that is the answer at all.  

I actually think you asked a question which was, inadvertently I'm sure, misleading, & people responded accordingly. You suggested this....

Ive been noticing recently a lot of stake threads are not getting staked at all or not making their percentages

It was a sort of leading question, but lets look at some facts.

We have two Staking Boards, being "Online" & "Live".

In "Online", as far as I can see, the last TEN Staking Threads all sold out. They came from a mix of players, from "top" Online guys like Rick Trigg & Dan Carter, (over $6,000 requested by those two & snapped up quickly) down to regular & small-ball guys. They were all, however you may phrase it, sensibly priced, & were all from regular blondes, who Post right across the Forum. The last point is key - blondes like to stake regular blondes, but are slightly sussy of relative newbies, or those who don't much use the Forum for regular stuff.

In "Live", of the last ten Staking Threads, EIGHT sold out very quickly. Again, a broad range of players, from "top" lads like Alex, Thewy & Plenners, then through all levels down to fairly "small" players, & all sensibly priced.

The other two are worth looking at, to see why.

One of the two was from Alex, who, on the first occasion, perhaps pitched it a bit high. Once he adjusted his sights, it sold out quickly.

The other was from "hotdog", & got no responses at all. Those who use that Staking Board regularly could have predicted exactly that. I & we don't have any problem with hotdog, not at all, but it has to be said, it was never likely to sell, for a variety of reasons. The OP was not the best, & hotdog only uses the Forum in a very limited way, & is not known  - yet - by many here. I actually know him from 5 or 6 years back, as a young Walsall regular, & he is a fine young man, with no shortage of self-confidence & belief in his ability. But hardly anyone here knows him, & he has not put himself about across the wider community. If he addressed those areas, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to sell.

People like to stake top players, at decent prices, but mostly, we like to stake peeps we know, who are mates, or "known" blondes.

I've mentioned, I thnk, 20 threads across the two Boards, of which 18 sold out quickly, so a 90% success rate, & there were good reasons why the other two did not sell, one was subsequently amended & sold out quickly.

So, my take is that the original question was (unintentionally) flawed, it was a sort of erroneous leading question, & from that, several lads walked into the trap & said "folks are under it".

Many people ARE under it, but a 90% success rate, over an admittedly small sample size (20), does not suggest to me that requested stakes are not getting sold.

Delve through the Staking Boards over a longer period to get a better sample size, & I'd be very surprised if the "SOLD OUT" % ever dipped below 90.

I DO think the OP's are, generally, much better these days than, say, 12 or 18 months ago, as we've had some "Staking Police" which has helped matters.  
Thanks for taking the time to examine the point made.. As a community I think prices should remain fair and reflect that it's a community. I would feel uneasy squeezing the maximum out of people prepared to invest/punt in me. Similairly one would expect blondes to back those that are a significant part of that community. My original point wasn't just in reference to the most recent posts you refer to but a general slowing down I felt I had noticed on there. Clearly some posters feel they have noticed it too?
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