AA in £100 freeze

[zerofive]

Seemed like a no-brainer to me at the time but would like to see what others think

150/300/50 level. Villain 1 just moved to the table, older gent tho, have seen him flat with JJ. Played with villain 2 a few times, has moves but on the whole is super tight (once before in a cash game he flatted me with second nut house on 3 to a straight flush board.) Think we all have in the region of 25-30k.

Villain 1 raises UTG to 750
Hero 3bets UTG+1 to 1950 with
Folds to Villain 2 who calls button
Blinds fold.
Villain 1 calls.

Flop (6,750)

Villain 1 checks.
Hero bets 3300
Villain 2 calls
Villain 1 calls

Turn (16,650)

Villain 1 checks
Hero checks
Villain 2 bets 9000
Villain 1 raises all-in
Hero folds

Thoughts please

[rfgqqabc]

Seems like we are probably behind in both spots somehow. Going to be v.tilting to see V2 with KK and V1 with QJhh

[jgcblack]

Seems like we are probably behind in both spots somehow. Going to be v.tilting to see V2 with KK and V1 with QJhh

this....

Would really need to be villain dependant, live reads etc...
I think not having the Ah could push this into a call a more than 0%.

however this early on.... I probably just let it go and take my 25k to the bank next hand

[Tal]

Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?

[zerofive]

Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?

Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go

[Tal]

Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?

Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go

So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold?

[zerofive]

Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?

Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go

So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold?

Is that bad?

[pleno1]

5k on the flop seems wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too big no?

[Tal]

Reasoning behind C-bet size? Seems low to me on that flop. Would 5k+ not seem more likely to induce funkiness with KQ or JJ-77?

Wanted to bet/bet/jam, seemed like 3.5/7.5/18 was roughly the way to go

So, one call on the flop and you bet the turn with the intention of jamming most rivers, but two calls on the flop and it's a standard check/fold?

Is that bad?

Apologies. That wasn't a criticism; I was just trying to understand the rationale.

It's good to learn why you bet what you bet and why you made the decisions you made.

@pleno, against two players, I would assume that a two-suit flop with one picture lends itself more to a larger c-bet. I like finding out I'm wrong, though Can't improve without knowing this stuff. It'd be great if you didn't assume I knew what I was doing, though, and continued your posts with the word "because". Recs gotta Rec, see?

[zerofive]

I think 5k leaves us with an awkward stack size for the rest of the hand. Basically we can only go for two streets of value if we bet too much on the flop. I like your idea of getting one villain to go crazy, but I think versus two nits (well, one nit and one perceived nit) I just don't think that's going to happen.

Basically heads up I was going for three streets against an AQ/KQ because while we block an ace, it's still more likely that he has one of those hands than a flopped set. Against two villains, especially when we have the , it dramatically reduces the combo of flush draws we can get value from and does greatly increase the likelihood that we are beaten in one spot.

I could also be wrong

[MC]

Wp imo.

Sucks if you were good, but I don't think we're good often enough to gii.