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The Baron
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Re: your most likely move here
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October 27, 2005, 01:43:30 PM »
I dont like your opponents play at all Adam. If he was to call then surely he must "stop and go" with that flop? Move you off it there and then.
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AdamM
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October 27, 2005, 01:47:00 PM »
that'd be fair enough
then If I call with a missed AK it's not a beat, it's my mistake.
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Re: your most likely move here
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October 27, 2005, 01:54:17 PM »
Quote from: divaflava on October 27, 2005, 01:05:03 PM
No you can't pass top set Adam, I put you on JJ or 1010 and just got lucky when you didn't fold.
It was a winner takes all, I felt I had to pick up that pot after having four good starting hands completely miss the flop with the result that I'd folded 40 per cent of my starting stack. Possibly I should have called valvster with a pair of sixes on the flop after he moved in with what I felt was probably something like AJ but at that stage I hadn't formed a strong view of his play (had 69o in BB, flop 642n rainbow, preflop he had raised 3x in mid-position and there was at least one caller b4 me)
It does make me laugh that it was A6c tho' - what goes around comes around
does that make much difference? I know it gives you 3 Aces as outs but you moved so quick I dont believe you thought of that
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Re: your most likely move here
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October 27, 2005, 03:20:50 PM »
Must move in here with AK you encourage action pretty standard play I think at this stage of tourney.
I don't see much wrong with the K5 play as he knows he can only lose 1/3rd of his stack.
I don't consider this an auto fold and might even set you in especially in a winner take all tourney.
Don't understand why he checked it though he should've put you all in on that flop.
If you have 25k with AK then getting involved with K5o is asking for trouble but you only have 8k if he does double you up he still has 17 big blinds and an 'M' of 11 which is playable.
I think there is a case for all 3 options I'd probably place equal weighting on all 3 can't be seen as a target in the bb.
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October 27, 2005, 04:56:42 PM »
Yes. You believe what you choose to mate.
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Re: your most likely move here
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October 27, 2005, 05:23:27 PM »
Well, this is the reason why I appreciate this place so much.
Sometimes you need a few different viewpoints to be able to draw your own conclusions from the hand.
It's fantastic that Adam can post this poser on the forum and, in turn, receive so many replies.
Personally, I'd fold, but that's just me. Every1 has a different style and table image that they wish to project. Sometimes playing a hand like this lets people know that you're prepared to defend those blinds if you believe someone is stealing.
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October 27, 2005, 05:25:24 PM »
I'll sort out another home game soon Diva, we can have an A,6 decider.
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The Baron
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Re: your most likely move here
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October 27, 2005, 06:48:00 PM »
Quote from: JP on October 27, 2005, 03:20:50 PM
Must move in here with AK you encourage action pretty standard play I think at this stage of tourney.
I don't see much wrong with the K5 play as he knows he can only lose 1/3rd of his stack.
I don't consider this an auto fold and might even set you in especially in a winner take all tourney.
Don't understand why he checked it though he should've put you all in on that flop.
If you have 25k with AK then getting involved with K5o is asking for trouble but you only have 8k if he does double you up he still has 17 big blinds and an 'M' of 11 which is playable.
I think there is a case for all 3 options I'd probably place equal weighting on all 3 can't be seen as a target in the bb.
An interesting post. I wouldn't opt for the reraise in this spot as I think it'd be very optimistic to expect a lay down here from the raiser. I agree with the bit about putting him all in on the flop though. You wont see many better flops for a K5 when it has been raised.
Personally I would fold the K5. With that flop though I'd probably dump it in and pray.
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October 27, 2005, 11:26:34 PM »
good man Adam
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October 27, 2005, 11:27:54 PM »
Just need a chance to crack Phil_and's aces with 56o now
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October 27, 2005, 11:44:36 PM »
BTW, I think the K5o is a poor call with an average stack. I put you on aj at or suited ace there, but not ak, so I'd possibly decide to take the chance you feel you can fold if i move in else gamble at 40 per cent for all your chips or, more likely, pass.
If I'm roughly 150 per cent av. if I lose for all ur chips then I put you all in every time.
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October 28, 2005, 05:52:12 AM »
Don't get me wrong I would prob say fold normally as playing out of position with a hand like K5 is not ideal but this is a crucial period of the game and 1 strong play might make the other players stay out of your way, suddenly that A-5s doesn't look so playable when you are 1 off the button vs the 'maniac' in the bb. Sometimes technically 'bad' plays can work wonders for your image and will keep people guessing. Just making a case for the other options and I am by no means an expert.
JP
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