River Action in Cash Game

[cambo]

really need to know more about the villan here. maybe a little thin but im getting it in . i think ur ahead lots of the time here , i just cant see what he has , i mean surley hes raising pre with qq akc i dont think hed be thinking about raising with 33 then flatting or 910 and if he did have 910c hed be rasing the flop . thats leaves u with 88 and aj imo . might be spewy but im going with the hand

[GreekStein]

i just cant see what he has

i think ur ahead lots of the time here

How so when you got no clue of where villain is at?

[AlexMartin]

really need to know more about the villan here. maybe a little thin but im getting it in . i think ur ahead lots of the time here , i just cant see what he has , i mean surley hes raising pre with qq akc i dont think hed be thinking about raising with 33 then flatting or 910 and if he did have 910c hed be rasing the flop . thats leaves u with 88 and aj imo . might be spewy but im going with the hand

meh, what made hands that we beat will he turn into a bluff on this river?

He can DEF have AA/KK/QQ which he will prolly check back, almost certainly infact. Only J we beat is J10, outweighed by QJ and AJ combinatronically (love that word).

He can def have played the nfd like this, of which there are a tonne of combos, given he has the button. Also, he can def have slowplayed a set, 88 specifically.

I think anything BUT check folding is spew tbh without deep history (like knowing this guy can double float and rep hands, when he KNOWS we have a v strong holding) which i dont think Blatch would get in live cash games at the wsop.

[GreekStein]

guy also doesn't have enough back to think he could make Blatch pass a hand as strong as 3 jacks so to turn a hand into a bluff here would be v risky.

[cambo]

good post alex, maybe i wasnt giving enough thought to him having axc hands , pretty bad tho if hes calling the turn bet with those type of hands

[doubleup]

OP should really just push-in.  If he's going to raise KJ utg at a full table, he's going to do his cash sooner or later.  So why waste more time.

[AlexMartin]

OP should really just push-in.  If he's going to raise KJ utg at a full table, he's going to do his cash sooner or later.  So why waste more time.

I agree tbh. Think this should be a muck.

[Pyso]

..er, why did you raise utg with KJ? I know I'm tighter than a duck's arse but I would fold this crap from terrible position. I'd rather raise with 7,2 from the button. Was the table full handed or six max?

[Blatch]

..er, why did you raise utg with KJ? I know I'm tighter than a duck's arse but I would fold this crap from terrible position. I'd rather raise with 7,2 from the button. Was the table full handed or six max?

Was 9 handed and I raised basically because the table was so soft and I hadnt really been put in a tricky spot for over 4 hours or so.  The table was redic soft and I was happy playing pretty much ATC from anywhere on the table and being pretty certain where I was in every hand.

I checked the river, he shoved and I folded and he flipped  for the flush.  The reason I asked was I wanted to know if people would put a bet out there and fold to a shovbe knowing he has to have it 100% if he does come OTT.  I think against his range the only hand im eating by the river was J10 and I bet as much as I did on the turn to take away the correct odds of someone chasing the flush.

[pleno1]

Why are we saying he could have qq-aa here? He obv raises the flop with op to the board. Depending on how aggresive he is, he probs raises akc here, only hands which he flats two streets are flush draws imo. Bet folding this river is awful too for people suggesting to fire out a blocker. People fire out blockers far too much these days, as a kinda disguised value bet, playig 5-10 at the venetian I guess you get raised here even if he has air.

Oh and fold pre.