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« on: January 05, 2006, 12:37:34 AM »

----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tight87 [ ]
Paavo123: raises to 22580.18 and is all-in
Fly Half: calls 22580.18
Tight87: calls 22580.18
Iceman013: folds
_tarka_: calls 16580.18
----- FLOP ----- [  ]
_tarka_: checks
Fly Half: checks
Tight87: bets 26273.50 and is all-in
_tarka_: folds
Fly Half: calls 26273.50
----- TURN ----- [  ][]
----- RIVER ----- [   ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Tight87: shows [ ] (A Pair of Nines, King high)
Paavo123: shows [ ] (High Card Ace)
Fly Half: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high)
Fly Half collects 52547 from Side pot #1
Fly Half collects 97070.72 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 149617.72 Main pot 97070.72 Side pot #1 52547 | Rake 0
Board [    ]
Seat 2: _tarka_ (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Fly Half showed [ ] and won (149617.72) with Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high
Seat 8: Tight87 (button) lost
Seat 9: Iceman013 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Correct move to stick my chips in considering it was a final table ?
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2006, 01:09:59 AM »

What did you have?? 99?
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2006, 01:37:30 AM »

yeh had pocket 9's . Think i should of considered how massive the chip leaders stack was .
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2006, 01:42:37 AM »

Review that hand history mate. It lacks a lot of information which makes a meaningful analysis impossible...
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2006, 01:45:37 AM »

------HAND 5------
Game #1286318784: Hold'em NL (3000/6000) - 2006/01/04 - 23:56:08 (UK)
Table "Tourney 1666101 - 1" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 2: _tarka_ (130348.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Paavo123 (23330.18 in chips)
Seat 5: Fly Half (364259.18 in chips)
Seat 8: Tight87 (49603.68 in chips)
Seat 9: Iceman013 (62458.66 in chips)
Iceman013: posts the ante 750
_tarka_: posts the ante 750
Paavo123: posts the ante 750
Fly Half: posts the ante 750
Tight87: posts the ante 750
Iceman013: posts small blind 3000
_tarka_: posts big blind 6000
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Tight87 [ ]
Paavo123: raises to 22580.18 and is all-in
Fly Half: calls 22580.18
Tight87: calls 22580.18
Iceman013: folds
_tarka_: calls 16580.18
----- FLOP ----- [two hearts ]
_tarka_: checks
Fly Half: checks
Tight87: bets 26273.50 and is all-in
_tarka_: folds
Fly Half: calls 26273.50
----- TURN ----- [two hearts ][]
----- RIVER ----- [two hearts ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Tight87: shows [ ] (A Pair of Nines, King high)
Paavo123: shows [ As] (High Card Ace)
Fly Half: shows [ two spades] (Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high)
Fly Half collects 52547 from Side pot #1
Fly Half collects 97070.72 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 149617.72 Main pot 97070.72 Side pot #1 52547 | Rake 0
Board [two hearts ]
Seat 2: _tarka_ (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Fly Half showed [ two spades] and won (149617.72) with Two Pairs, Kings and Twos, Ten high
Seat 8: Tight87 (button) lost
Seat 9: Iceman013 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2006, 01:54:29 AM »

Your all-in is more than reasonable, at this stage you don't need a great (or any) hand to push in. If your worrying that pushing all-in with 99 and only 4 big blinds might be overly aggressive then your problems probably lie in the other direction.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2006, 01:58:57 AM »

your all in is fine although I would make the move preflop, If you think the 99 is ahead and worthy of a call then you must push in .
Also you called preflop then called an all in on the flop there is no aggression shown from you in this hand in fact I think you played it too weakly. ( i only comment on this due to the title of the post).

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2006, 01:59:54 AM »

Yeh think i should maybe loosen up on the final table happening quite a bit at the moment , hit the final table and seem to tighten up . Was playing well earlier stealing blinds  and got to the final table about 3rd in chip count although the chip leader then still had a massive stack. I then lost a few chips and the next thing i know i was pushing with 99 . Think i need to start playing a wider range of hands at final table .
Cheers for the advice  Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2006, 02:04:03 AM »

No sorry you push on the flop so you played the hand fine, I just would have pushed preflop (it's late!)
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2006, 02:49:30 AM »

Apologies

I just read thru' your hand history again and I must confess I was a bit lazy the first time. The situation is in fact a lot more marginal I had thought. You have 8 big blinds so you have a little room for manouver. The smallest stack has pushed in and been flat called by the monster stack, there are 2 players to act behind you.

Your flat call was the worst play, as you gave tarka the odds to see cheap flop. Your choices here are pass or all-in.

I'm probably passing here, I much prefer to get my chips in first, and you are probably against a minimum of 2 overcards.

 

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