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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2013, 09:11:58 PM »

Because nearly everyone Pleno has asked about the hand has said to him we should be folding. When we're folding a hand that we're not going to beat very often, then I think villain can definitely be making a case for turning an A into a bluff. I'm still not sure what I would like to do given a spot like this, but as mentioned, I'm still probably edging towards a call more.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2013, 09:33:38 PM »

I know you and some other guys you talk to have been using some big bet sizes in spots like this...

Like when internet pulled a few massive river shoves in the hu comp.


I dont want to pretend that I understand either side of them, but in this spot where you've tried to induce one what are you thinking on the river?

What doubts did you have? Why?

How do you pick a spot to induce like this?
(if you want to answer on Skype then that's cool, or just pm on here)
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 12:50:29 AM »

I know you and some other guys you talk to have been using some big bet sizes in spots like this...

Like when internet pulled a few massive river shoves in the hu comp.


I dont want to pretend that I understand either side of them, but in this spot where you've tried to induce one what are you thinking on the river?

What doubts did you have? Why?

How do you pick a spot to induce like this?
(if you want to answer on Skype then that's cool, or just pm on here)

It's v v v v v v v rare to see a jam in these spots most of the time they will raise to 150-220 or something, 400 is huge seems harder to balance blah blah generally just nobody shoves here l. They do however bluff alot in every single spot, so i gave some rope (frOm flop I knew what my river sizing would be) but I didn't expect a jam.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 12:55:24 AM »

Does the runout not make a difference, can decide if this a turn/river he would bluff on or not.

You said you'd decided river size otf that is why i ask.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 02:24:23 AM »

I don't really like this spot as an induce spot, it doesn't seem like a very good spot to bluff is you're him, you could have a really good hand and he v likely cant have AA/KK/TT, would 3b AT and KT pf some % and would raise those two hands pre-river sometimes as well. The main hand he can rep is a flush surely the  blocker has plenty of equity to just call $32 river bet (only needs to be winning 1 in 5) and the only "airs" he should have is 97, Q9 and J9 ...

He cant have the world of flushes, but all  Xd hands are possible, 97 Q9 J9 QJ 96 and 67 all seem possible...

I just don't know what we're trying to make him induce
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 01:23:40 PM »

Turning his Ax into a bluff/trying you to fold chops

Every single time I use this logic I am miles behind.  I'm going to make up a screensaver and "They are absolutely fucking not trying to push you off a chop" is going to be near the top.
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