nah i disagree, i dont think there is any need whatsoever for this guy to call preflop.
well, the main reason is that he can bust people that aren't able to fold overpairs... people keep harping on about "proper poker" and then cite high stakes poker as a fine example of proper poker in action, but every single one of those players would call a raise with 8/10 suited (and any other fine hands like that) when it constitutes about 1% of their stack
What there certainly isn't a need for, is for you to get your whole stack in on the flop. What do you think he has? if he has an overpair, you are in trouble, if he had an underpair, almost half of em flopped a set, and the other half aren't getting any more money in the pot.... so you are just hoping that he has what.. Ace nine? flush draw? Try putting him on a range of hands, rather then putting him on a range of hands that you can beat. IF anyone muffed this hand, it was you.. not him
You need to try and understand the concept of risk vs reward in poker.. he calls 150.. that is his initial risk. What is his reward? well, if he flops good.. he can win your stack.. which is 7500, so in effect, and this is what implied odds is.. he is risking 150 to win 7500.. thats 50/1 odds for the small investment preflop. Pretty damn good
Now, implied odds aren't really that simple, because people always over-estimate the liklihood of getting someones stack when they hit their hand..and are likely to lose quite a bit if they make a second best hand, or when they misplay a draw post-flop, but when its such a small % of his stack, it would be a crime not to call with a hand that has as much potential as 8/10.. especially against someone that thinks deep stack tournies are designed for you to wait for big hands. That gives him extra reason to call with a very wide range of hands. Hell, I think its correct to call with close to any 2 cards that are 2-3 gapped, suited or not.. against people who think like that
You also have to consider tertiary benefits of playing a wide range of hands. Lets say people follow your philosophy of thinking that deep stack tourneys are meant to be tourneys where you sit and wait for AA or other big hands.. what do you think will happen when you patiently wait for two hours, get AA.. and then raise. How likely are you to get a lot of action? not very (***).... so you have to balance your strategy and play other hands in order to not make yourself so exploitable if you are only playing big pairs.
*** you will get a certain amont of action preflop, but thats going to be from alert thinking players that are calling with a wide range of hands preflop, hoping to flop a hand to bust you post-flop. What i really mean is, you wont get a lot of action post-flop unless you are in a hell of a lot of trouble
I ust saw another post from you:
does that mean that i also should be making calls like this in the early stages of an mtt to try and break someone?
you should always be calling with potential hands, if you have reason to believe your opponent has a big hand, and isn't likely to fold it post-flop, which is the likely read your villain had of you. However, you should always tread and play with caution, as potential hands are easy to misplay postflop.. ie overvaluing draws, getting married to top pair, so if you consider yourself someone who wont get married to hands, then you should be calling with many hands. If you do get married to hands, you should probably just stick to trying to call with small pairs hoping to flop a set
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