Did Pab bluff me?

[action man]

[Sep 2 03:21:01] : Pab 09 called $200 and raised $2,264.25 and is All-in

that tells me he has no set

[The Baron]

This is a definate pass for me.

Pab probably has you on an overpair pre-flop by your reraise and knows if he hits his small set on a low flop he might get paid off big time.

So the best thing to do when he hits? Bet out. Absolutely 100% - bet out. Why? It creates the image that he doesn't dont have much - especially by betting out heads up (who'd bet a set heads up?), but more importantly it's a good bet when he knows a likely holding for you and that you'll raise if he is correct about your overpair.

Against a worse player Pab gets paid off here for this little move.

He has a set IMO. But then I'm a card rack.

[action man]

come on pab spill the beans mate

[snoopy1239]

There's no way Pab's shoving all that money in with A-J when Luckyblind's raised preflop and then reraised the flop. It shouts overpair, so surely sticking in so many chips in the hope that he either doesn't have the hand that he is so clearly advertising or will fold a big overpair is suicidal and unnecessarily risky.

I doubt that Pab would flat-call Queens preflop. If Luckyblind has Aces or Kings, then he's setting himself up for a big hit. I expect he'd rather define his hand preflop with a hand like this by raising.

Of course, it's possible that he had two hearts, but I think Pab flopped a set and made the overbet so it looked like he was on the flush draw, because if Lucky Blind calls, which he so easily could do, he's got his man dominated in a huge pot.

[bolt pp]

he had the nut flush draw with either a pair of threes or a gutshot straight.

[NoflopsHomer]

I think the only hands Pab can have here are 55, 33 or less likely but possible  or even 

[Trix]

he had pocket kings

[MrMoves]

Own up Pab, you flopped the bottom two pair didn't you?

[Pab]

Curious George 10474750-60975 Holdem No Limit $5/$10
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Hand Start.
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 1 : Lucky-Blind has $1,861.75
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 2 : the lipster has $294
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 3 : londonMunda has $977.25
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 4 : dhfdls has $500
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 5 : epistate has $1,210
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Seat 6 : Pab 09 has $2,679.25
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : Lucky-Blind is the dealer.
[Sep 2 03:20:04] : the lipster posted small blind.
[Sep 2 03:20:05] : londonMunda posted big blind.
[Sep 2 03:20:06] : Game [60975] started with 5 players.
[Sep 2 03:20:06] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Sep 2 03:20:06] : Seat 6 : Pab 09 has
[Sep 2 03:20:09] : epistate called $10 and raised $25
[Sep 2 03:20:14] : Pab 09 called $35
[Sep 2 03:20:20] : Lucky-Blind called $35 and raised $80
[Sep 2 03:20:23] : the lipster folded.
[Sep 2 03:20:27] : londonMunda folded.
[Sep 2 03:20:29] : epistate folded.
[Sep 2 03:20:32] : Pab 09 called $80
[Sep 2 03:20:33] : Dealing flop.
[Sep 2 03:20:33] : Board cards [ ]
[Sep 2 03:20:41] : Pab 09 bet $100
[Sep 2 03:20:48] : Lucky-Blind called $100 and raised $200
[Sep 2 03:21:01] : Pab 09 called $200 and raised $2,264.25 and is All-in
[Sep 2 03:21:15] : Lucky-Blind : show me
[Sep 2 03:21:16] : Lucky-Blind has 10 seconds to respond.
[Sep 2 03:21:21] : Pab 09 : cant
[Sep 2 03:21:26] : Lucky-Blind did not respond and is folded
[Sep 2 03:21:28] : Pab 09 wins $877 as the last player standing
[Sep 2 03:21:31] : Hand is over.


Spoke to totalise about the hand, we both agreed i should have made a bigger lead at the flop, in order for mike to make a more committing re-raise on the flop and in turn find it much harder to pass when i pushed. Mistake on my part, but nice laydown mike. I would have played my big draws like this as well

[action man]

ive been pwned

[Nem]

ive been pwned

You should have bet out $200 otf

[The Baron]

ive been pwned

You should have bet out $200 otf

I think pot sized is the way to go, maybe 3/4 pot.

[snoopy1239]

Pab's bet doesn't have to be called too often for it to be highly lucrative and, from my experience, the overpair will call more often than not due to (1) being unable to lay down a monster, (2) putting the opponent on the draw (3) believing that if they did have a set, they wouldn't bet so much.

Good play in the end, just unfortunate that he ran into someone that was good enough to release such a strong hand.

[Royal Flush]

Pab's bet doesn't have to be called too often for it to be highly lucrative and, from my experience, the overpair will call more often than not due to (1) being unable to lay down a monster, (2) putting the opponent on the draw (3) believing that if they did have a set, they wouldn't bet so much.

Good play in the end, just unfortunate that he ran into someone that was good enough to release such a strong hand.

I think Mike misclicked....

[luckyblind]

The bet on the flop stank. Usually with a bad player they are trying to see a cheap turn with a draw (on tribeca anyway). However I know pab is not the run of the mill goon and my first thought was that he was looking for me to raise (which I still did but less than I usually would).

What I should have done was flat call, as I had already got in my head he was not flushing. I can still get away on the turn still but on the odd occasion I resuck and stack him.

This is not to say this how I would play the hand against other players, some I break the mouse I call so fast.

Thanks Pab for letting me know I was right.