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Moskvich
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2006, 05:26:41 PM »

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Pretty sure he has flush draw

As to whether or not you call, I wonder how sure you can be here that he has the flush draw - surely it's a horrible move by him to push with a draw into such a small pot, given short stack's situation. If he has a draw, he's probably going to get to see at least one more card pretty cheaply, and he might well get to see the river as well without jeopardising his third place. I think my first thought might be something like a vulnerable top pair or maybe 2 pair.

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ICM says that you get 37.5% equity for calling and 35.5% for folding, quite close.

This is only right in hindsight, isn't it, once you know that he can outdraw you to the flush..? Otherwise I imagine the calling equity is higher, no..?

As to whether you should push pre-flop - I think whether or not that's viable depends on the structure of the tournament and how aggressively you've played it so far. If you were playing some sort of speed/turbo affair where the blinds are about to go up fast, then I think an all-in from you might serve a purpose, encouraging the others to give you a walk or two. Otherwise it's probably pretty pointless with the blinds at these levels IMO, since it prevents you from hitting a hand like you did here.
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2006, 05:54:07 PM »

why are you worried about making it into the money? YOU are the one with the massive chiplead, you can't get knocked out this hand. This makes a huge difference. You'd still have 13 BBs if you lose...... and you flopped a straight, get it called.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2006, 11:30:30 PM »

You lot aren't taking in all the info out there.

Why would anyone limp at that stage of the tourney? I think it is very weak or very strong. Even with aces you really want to raise preflop here imo (i.e. probably weak).
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2006, 11:41:59 PM »

Instacall.

I'd be raising preflop a lot of times here. Probably not all-in at this stage, if the blinds were 200/400 then I'd be moving in nearly every time.
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