BB4 daytime event for the saturday?

[mikkyT]

Airsoft models are regarded as toys; they are not, in law however, toys, as they do not meet certain legal requirements under law. As such they are unrestricted, and may be possessed by almost anyone, except that they must not operate above a mazimum power level, which is the level at which they might be "capable of inflicting a more than trivial injury". This can be taken, under current Home Office guidelines to the Police and Courts, to be no lower than 1.35 Joules, or roughly one (1) Foot/Pound.

Not 6 like you state billy...

Provided, therefore, your Airsoft model does not exceed the UK limits, as recommended by the majority of UK Airsoft Site Operators, and you do not brandish or display your Airsoft model in a "Public Place", you should have no problems regarding your Airsoft model. These limits stand at 328fps for any airsoft toy capable of semi-automatic or automatic fire, and 500fps for any single action airsoft toy. A Public Place can be taken to mean any place that is not privately owned; Private land can be taken to mean your own home, or a freinds' home, or a recognised and properly organised and convened Airsoft Gaming site, where the site operators either own, or have permission to use (from the freeholder), the land for that purpose.

[mikkyT]

The Firearms Act 1968 provides:

5(1) A person commits an offence if, without the authority of the Defence Council, he has in his possession, or purchases or acquires, or manufactures, sells or transfers -
5(1)(a) any firearm which is so designed or adapted that, if pressure is applied to the trigger, missiles continue to be discharged until pressure is removed from the trigger or the magazine containing the missiles is empty;
5(2) The weapons and ammunition specified in subsection (1) of this section are referred to in this Act as "prohibited weapons" and "prohibited ammunition" respectively.

This is the section of the Firearms Act 1968 that defined what a 'Section 5' weapon is; it further states who may possess a section 5 firearm. This means that unless you are a serving member of the Armed Forces or Armed Forces reserves, ir an 'Authorised Shot' in an armed branch of a Home Office approved Police Service, you should not possess a weapon capable of actions under s5(1)(a) FA 1968. Thus, if your airsoft model is capable of semi-auto or automatic fire, it SHOULD NOT fall into the low-power air weapon category or higher, instead, it should produce a demonstratively lower level of muzzle energy than that of a 'low power air weapon', or you would be guilty of an offence under the above subsections of the Firearms Act 1968, and liable to arrest, trial, and punishment.

[Sark79]

I was actually worried when I was taking my gun home .  I thought I may get into trouble with the police for carrying a gun.  I asked the Girl in GAMESTATION to put a double wrap on it just incase.  She looked at me strangely and told me it wasn't real.  I responded by telling her it was real in the eyes of the Zombies I would be shooting later that day.

[mikkyT]

If your paintball weapon is "capable of firing 15 shots a second" in full auto, then you ARE guilty of firearms offences. Unless of course it is not as powerful as you so claim.

Back it up BILLY BOY.

[Newmanseye]

I will need to ask snoopy for a new Smiley, a denial smiley and we will name it the mikkyT.  I wonder if it comes with a stripy uniform?

Ohh By the way, you are wrong on all accounts mikky. Please feel free to peruse the links i have posted to save you further embarrassment.

 

 

[bolt pp]

I was actually worried when I was taking my gun home .  I thought I may get into trouble with the police for carrying a gun.  I asked the Girl in GAMESTATION to put a double wrap on it just incase.  She looked at me strangely and told me it wasn't real.  I responded by telling her it was real in the eyes of the Zombies I would be shooting later that day.

did you get her phone number?

[mikkyT]

paintball weapons are higher rated because they are not full auto.

There is a section on (higher powered) sniper rifles:

NOTE: Most sites in the UK permit single action Airsoft 'sniping' rifles to fire at 500 feet per second. The muzzle energy for this (with a 0.2 gram Airsoft projectile) is 2.32 Joules, and for this reason, they restrict the minimum range at which you can fire a sniping rifle at someone, to roughly 20 to 25 feet.

While, technically, this is firing a low-power air weapon at your opponent, Paintball games (see below) use much higher ratings of power for their weaponry, often at point blank range. Therefore it is, while not exactly within the spirit and letter of UK Law, not prohibited in Airsoft gaming within the UK to use such 'sniping' rifles.

And finally, before I leave you to digest all this so called OPINION:

Now, as to using an Airsoft model in a skirmish game environment. Strictly speaking, the offence of Actual Bodily Harm is committed by someone causing any injury of a trivial or minor nature (Section 47, Offences Against The Person Act, 1861).

However, since the introduction of paintball in the UK, it is generally accepted that a person taking part in a paintball skirmish game should expect that another person may fire, and hit him with ammunition fired from a paintball gun. This meaning has crossed over to the Airsoft Skirmish game, so you should have no problems whatsoever, as the principle is exactly the same.

[mikkyT]

Billy, I'd rather take the word of a solicitor over you. Any time. Except when I need tips on how to play poker.

[Sark79]

No, I made an impression though. She said to the guy next to her " What a weirdo he was " as I was walking out of the shop.  I think she was impressed 

[mikkyT]

Billy, I'm getting my information 1) from the links you gave me 2) from google 3) from the airsoft sites I post on.

[bolt pp]

No, I made an impression though. She said to the guy next to her " What a weirdo he was " as I was walking out of the shop.  I think she was impressed 

"theres only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and thats not being talked about"

[Sark79]

lol

[ifm]

I reckon we should play naked paintball.................

[mikkyT]

Only if Billy volunteers to be the target.

[mikkyT]

Billy I give up. You win by default There is one point I conceed on however, and thats the power of the guns. In theory a paintball marker will be more powerful than an airsoft weapon. But if the paintball marker is following the letter of UK law, it cannot be full auto. If it is full auto then it has to have the same muzzle velocity as its airsoft counterpart.

This is getting into (gettting into? I think it already is haha) a pointless discussion where neither party will budge an inch and we are both citing passages of defacto fact at each other and spattering insulting comments in amongst it...