Quick Hello and P4C

[Trace]

charity end up with    £19,880   if it got there? ive got to have my doubts as to seeing only one case the reece fund.....sorry.....

This in my opinion is casting aspersions towards theft!

[tikay]

PLEASE!

Let's move on. What's done is done.

Jagster will be reporting back to us in due course, he has a day job, so let's give him a bit of breathing space please.

There HAS been progress, as I outlined earlier, so I think we should all be in a slightly better frame of mind now.

Come on, lighten up guys, the worst is behind us.

Let's direct our positive vibes to young Reece. When he gets better, then we've really had a result.

[sofa----king]

PLEASE!

Let's move on. What's done is done.

Jagster will be reporting back to us in due course, he has a day job, so let's give him a bit of breathing space please.

There HAS been progress, as I outlined earlier, so I think we should all be in a slightly better frame of mind now.

Come on, lighten up guys, the worst is behind us.

Let's direct our positive vibes to young Reece. When he gets better, then we've really had a result.

tony i know you say whats done is done but bloody hell mate dont you think it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths ? knowing that people been giving to charity for 2 years and now finding out that only 30% goes to good causes? it has had to come to this to get to the bottom of things ?
if maureen wasnt brave enough as it is to have to come out in no uncertain terms and say look guys you gave this money for a good cause,but we still havent had it.
is this right? or wheres it too?   
                               i hate to think where the money would have gone if blondes never banged on the door to find out (im not saying they are stealing it trace)

                                                                 it could have gone on anything,but not the intended destination of the people that gave on this day.......

[RED-DOG]

Sofa,

I know you won 46 fights, but didn't you go back into your corner when the bell rang?

[tikay]

Sofa,

I know you won 46 fights, but didn't you go back into your corner when the bell rang?

I don't think his fights ever lasted a round.

[sofa----king]

Sofa,

I know you won 46 fights, but didn't you go back into your corner when the bell rang?

yeah after about 30 seconds coz the other guy was kippin

[ariston]

from what I now know of sofa I'm just glad I didn't ask if that was his real picture when he first joined 

[thetank]

Somewhere amidst this 46 round barn burner, sofa-king has become a hero member.   

[tantrum]

Top 500 charities spend around 9-10% on fund raising and administrative costs.  The average is 15-25%, anything more than that is a bad value for money.

[b4matt]

I've avoided posting on this thread as i'd had a 'small' chat with the nun before she went away.

I now just want to say well done to the blonde masses for forcing this through, and giving so generously in the first place, and well done to tk and dawg for going out of their way as true friends of the nun, and securing the cheque.

Most of you probably know the nun and Stacey, there both very proud people and this must have been a very difficult time for them, on top of reece's condition. I know the nun feels awkward by all of this, but it is my opinion and i'm sure the opinion of most here, that if we were to lose touch with you and you didn't post anymore, then we would all understand, but that maybe p4c would have won... Why should their failings deny US of your wit and insight, and YOU of all that is great about blonde. Please don't drop off.

Finally, i hope you all manage to have a lovely family christmas,

Lots of love to all, Matt. x

[RED-DOG]

If the Nun stops posting, I will personally go round there and make her come   online!!

[TheBigSlick]

Hello.

For those of you who do not know me, my name is Tony Banbury and I am a trustee of Game4Life.

I was present at the meeting last night, and may I thank Tony & Tom for their attendance in what proved a most constructive meeting.
I FULLY AGREE that the time in getting the money to Reece was totally unacceptable. I also FULLY AGREE that the charity does need more transparency.
However - and you can call it what you want - but some posts on this forum clearly insinuate wrong doing, and it is wrong to make that assumption when the posters clearly have nothing of substance to back it up.
Davey & Ange have worked tirelessly to get this charity up and running. They have had so many obstacles to overcome in their quest to make a success of the charity.  But still, after identifying this forums concerns and trying our best to sort it out as quickly as possible, the "Bear-Baiting" continues.

Both Andy (Jagster) & I have agreed to do what we can to sort out the problems, and if trust your "Spiritual Leader" Tony (Kendall - no offence intended)

PLEASE!

Let's move on. What's done is done.

Jagster will be reporting back to us in due course, he has a day job, so let's give him a bit of breathing space please.

There HAS been progress, as I outlined earlier, so I think we should all be in a slightly better frame of mind now.

Come on, lighten up guys, the worst is behind us.

Let's direct our positive vibes to young Reece. When he gets better, then we've really had a result.

Then you can allow us the time needed without the ridiculous rantings.

I confirm that in the past I have been paid my expenses to attend trustees meetings etc. (which is in line with the law in running a charity - as advised by the charity's solicitors), and I have been further paid fuel costs when I have transported the equipment to events in my own company's vehicle (I claimed just the direct fuel costs and not included any other costs such as depreciation etc. which IS allowed).

I am unable to give as much time to the charity through pressure of work, and it is my intention to resign my position of trustee as soon as possible. But in the meantime I intend to NOT claim any expenses.

On that subject and having spoken briefly to Andy (Jagster), I offer to sofa----king (and ANY other person suitable/acceptable to hold such a position in the eyes of the Charities Commission) the opportunity of a position on the board of trustee's.  They will then benefit from FULL TRANSPARENCY, they can then have the benefit of all the information available, and can work toward getting the ratio of money generated to monies going to the good causes up to that magical 85-90%.  I would expect of course that any person from the forum would not want to claim ANY expenses toward attending as many Trustee's meetings as they saw fit (as that would eat in to the monies intended for good causes), neither would I expect them to claim ANY expenses toward attending events wherever they may be in the country (again, for the same reasons), and also they should understand that this WILL eat into their time which should be spent working/running a business.  I look forward to hearing from you all by either PM or email (all enquiry's will be dealt with in the strictest confidence (but then again, would that not be transparent?)

Also, let me give you this scenario to consider:
A person (mentioning no names) has a charity that pays out 100% to good causes (lets for arguments sake say it raises £50,000), that person has a company who picks up all the admin costs.  If its admin costs etc. come to £25,000 then that can - and IMHO should be classed as income.  Therefore income equals £75,000 and to good causes equals £50,000 therefore the REAL percentage in the pound is 66.66%. A great achievement, but still far short of the magical 90%.

Things need to improve at Game4Life we accept that. Now give us the time to resolve it eh?

In closing, may I wish you all the best over the Christmas period, and hope you have a prosperous new year.

[ariston]

Top 500 charities spend around 9-10% on fund raising and administrative costs.  The average is 15-25%, anything more than that is a bad value for money.

where did you get that figure from tantrum? If that is right then it shows the 30% figure up for the disgrace it is.
Thank you for taking time to respong bigslick but I doubt anyone on here (beyond your small band of close personal friends) would want to be a trustee of a charity most have lost faith in.

[byronkincaid]

Also, let me give you this scenario to consider:
A person (mentioning no names) has a charity that pays out 100% to good causes (lets for arguments sake say it raises £50,000), that person has a company who picks up all the admin costs.  If its admin costs etc. come to £25,000 then that can - and IMHO should be classed as income.  Therefore income equals £75,000 and to good causes equals £50,000 therefore the REAL percentage in the pound is 66.66%. A great achievement, but still far short of the magical 90%.

That doesn't make sense to me.

[sofa----king]

Hello.

For those of you who do not know me, my name is Tony Banbury and I am a trustee of Game4Life.

I was present at the meeting last night, and may I thank Tony & Tom for their attendance in what proved a most constructive meeting.
I FULLY AGREE that the time in getting the money to Reece was totally unacceptable. I also FULLY AGREE that the charity does need more transparency.
However - and you can call it what you want - but some posts on this forum clearly insinuate wrong doing, and it is wrong to make that assumption when the posters clearly have nothing of substance to back it up.
Davey & Ange have worked tirelessly to get this charity up and running. They have had so many obstacles to overcome in their quest to make a success of the charity.  But still, after identifying this forums concerns and trying our best to sort it out as quickly as possible, the "Bear-Baiting" continues.

Both Andy (Jagster) & I have agreed to do what we can to sort out the problems, and if trust your "Spiritual Leader" Tony (Kendall - no offence intended)

PLEASE!

Let's move on. What's done is done.

Jagster will be reporting back to us in due course, he has a day job, so let's give him a bit of breathing space please.

There HAS been progress, as I outlined earlier, so I think we should all be in a slightly better frame of mind now.

Come on, lighten up guys, the worst is behind us.

Let's direct our positive vibes to young Reece. When he gets better, then we've really had a result.

Then you can allow us the time needed without the ridiculous rantings.

I confirm that in the past I have been paid my expenses to attend trustees meetings etc. (which is in line with the law in running a charity - as advised by the charity's solicitors), and I have been further paid fuel costs when I have transported the equipment to events in my own company's vehicle (I claimed just the direct fuel costs and not included any other costs such as depreciation etc. which IS allowed).

I am unable to give as much time to the charity through pressure of work, and it is my intention to resign my position of trustee as soon as possible. But in the meantime I intend to NOT claim any expenses.

On that subject and having spoken briefly to Andy (Jagster), I offer to sofa----king (and ANY other person suitable/acceptable to hold such a position in the eyes of the Charities Commission) the opportunity of a position on the board of trustee's.  They will then benefit from FULL TRANSPARENCY, they can then have the benefit of all the information available, and can work toward getting the ratio of money generated to monies going to the good causes up to that magical 85-90%.  I would expect of course that any person from the forum would not want to claim ANY expenses toward attending as many Trustee's meetings as they saw fit (as that would eat in to the monies intended for good causes), neither would I expect them to claim ANY expenses toward attending events wherever they may be in the country (again, for the same reasons), and also they should understand that this WILL eat into their time which should be spent working/running a business.  I look forward to hearing from you all by either PM or email (all enquiry's will be dealt with in the strictest confidence (but then again, would that not be transparent?)

Also, let me give you this scenario to consider:
A person (mentioning no names) has a charity that pays out 100% to good causes (lets for arguments sake say it raises £50,000), that person has a company who picks up all the admin costs.  If its admin costs etc. come to £25,000 then that can - and IMHO should be classed as income.  Therefore income equals £75,000 and to good causes equals £50,000 therefore the REAL percentage in the pound is 66.66%. A great achievement, but still far short of the magical 90%.

Things need to improve at Game4Life we accept that. Now give us the time to resolve it eh?

In closing, may I wish you all the best over the Christmas period, and hope you have a prosperous new year.

thanks for the offer of trustee for this organisation,"but no thanks"
but thanks for sorting things out for reece, with tom and jerrytikay
i hope you to have a nice christmas