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Sark79
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I forgot to say the Vet who put him down was an old guy and he was such a kind man, that made it even more upsetting because I knew he must have to do this for so many different people each week who are saying their goodbyes to good friends.
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On the subject of both humans and animals i think it all comes done to quality of life and suffering. I would not wish to see either an animal or human suffer more than is necessary especially with a terminal condition. I had to make the choice with my dog earlier this year not the easiest decision but in my eyes the correct one.
I believe that as a human if you are terminal you wouldn't want to suffer so why prolong possible suffering in an animal.
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Quote from: barhell on December 15, 2006, 11:25:15 PM
On the subject of both humans and animals i think it all comes done to quality of life and suffering. I would not wish to see either an animal or human suffer more than is necessary especially with a terminal condition. I had to make the choice with my dog earlier this year not the easiest decision but in my eyes the correct one.
I believe that as a human if you are terminal you wouldn't want to suffer so why prolong possible suffering in an animal.
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That is my point, yet it is still illegal to "help" a human die
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Quote from: M3boy on December 16, 2006, 12:29:17 AM
That is my point, yet it is still illegal to "help" a human die
In some countries
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Indeed James - I was talking about this country.
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December 16, 2006, 12:42:42 AM »
I think you missed the point, should we allow it in the UK?
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YES! In my view
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Euthanasia for horses
It's an emotive subject, often coloured by people's particular religious beliefs.
I think people in unbearable pain should be assisted to die, once various other pharmaceutical and psychological avenues of pain relief have been exhausted.
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I think once someone's quality of life reaches a point they no longer wish to endure they should be allowed an assissted death. I don't think they should be required to be in continuous pain to qualify for this. Bit of a minefield I know but just my honest opinion.
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Quote from: BrumBilly on December 16, 2006, 02:58:45 AM
I think once someone's quality of life reaches a point they no longer wish to endure they should be allowed an assissted death. I don't think they should be required to be in continuous pain to qualify for this. Bit of a minefield I know but just my honest opinion.
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Ok now someone has mentioned euphansaia now i'm going to open up a little on this. My dad is terminally ill at the moment and his will is to go sooner than later and without suffering. Due to his illness and his will on the matter if it was legal here i would have no qualms in opting for it as an avenue to go down. The idea of seeing someone so close suffer more than they have to is appalling, not only for them but also those who are close to them.
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Quote from: barhell on December 16, 2006, 06:50:13 AM
Ok now someone has mentioned euphansaia now i'm going to open up a little on this. My dad is terminally ill at the moment and his will is to go sooner than later and without suffering. Due to his illness and his will on the matter if it was legal here i would have no qualms in opting for it as an avenue to go down. The idea of seeing someone so close suffer more than they have to is appalling, not only for them but also those who are close to them.
Best wishes to you and your dad barhell in what must be a difficult time.
My mum's having chemotherapy treatment for cancer at the moment for the third time and has a very short life expectancy so I know what you are going through.
She's always been very anti euthanasia due to her religious beliefs but if she wanted it, i'd be happy to go along with her wishes.
Good luck to both you and your family
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Quote from: JungleCat03 on December 16, 2006, 07:15:58 AM
Quote from: barhell on December 16, 2006, 06:50:13 AM
Ok now someone has mentioned euphansaia now i'm going to open up a little on this. My dad is terminally ill at the moment and his will is to go sooner than later and without suffering. Due to his illness and his will on the matter if it was legal here i would have no qualms in opting for it as an avenue to go down. The idea of seeing someone so close suffer more than they have to is appalling, not only for them but also those who are close to them.
Best wishes to you and your dad barhell in what must be a difficult time.
My mum's having chemotherapy treatment for cancer at the moment for the third time and has a very short life expectancy so I know what you are going through.
She's always been very anti euthanasia due to her religious beliefs but if she wanted it, i'd be happy to go along with her wishes.
Good luck to both you and your family
Thnks and best wishes to you and yours
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For me, it's a no-brainer. "Assisted death" is a must, the problem of course is that it would get abused by mini-Shipman's, & that's hard to prevent.
30 years ago, this week in fact, my Dad died. I loved nobody more, man or woman, before or since, than Dad, he was Dad, Brother, best mate, the lot, still is, in fact.
He fell ill, & it soon became obvious that recovery was not possible, it was just a case of "when". They stuffed him full of medicine, & tablets, & intravenous drips, the lot. In doing so, they prolonged his agony, my agony, caused him to have an undignified death, wasted a hospital bed for 2 weeks & spent a bundle of money & used a stack of nursing resource.
There was me, praying for him to die, now, tonight, quickly, to ease his suffering, & here was the NHS at it's finest, doing everything to prolong his suffering.
It's a strange world we inhabit.
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