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« Reply #270 on: February 11, 2009, 06:54:19 PM »

The misunderstanding that a lot of people made stemmed from the % figure that was quoted as ended up going to good causes (~30% iirc)

This was derived from the end of year (or whatever period) accounts. Their expenses were mostly fixed costs. A salary, equipment, petrol, buffets etc. Once these were covered, all the money collected went to charitable causes.
It wasn't a case of they had this 30% figure in mind from the beginning, and everytime someone donated £100 they decide how to spend £70 and send £30 on to do some good.

The problem was the expenses were too large for the scale of the charity. With the benefit of hindsight, we can see that in that form, it probably shouldn't have existed in the first place.

For example, the charity footing the bill for travel and accomodation for the people who were organising and running a tournament is a pretty big scale thing. The tournaments didn't attract large numbers of people to justify this, and some of these events actually lost the charity money, or made them very little.

Charity poker tournaments go on today up and down the country on a smaller scale and many of them are very successful. The P4C model just wasn't meant to work.
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« Reply #271 on: February 11, 2009, 11:02:39 PM »

One of the events I attended had Thomas Kremser as TD.

I understand, he was given pay (and not £5 per hour!!!) and expenses (not the weekend at the local Travellodge) for the weekend.

Thomas went down massively in my estimation for all this.

If you can't do something for free for charity, don't do it imo.
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« Reply #272 on: February 11, 2009, 11:03:56 PM »

One of the events I attended had Thomas Kremser as TD.

I understand, he was given pay (and not £5 per hour!!!) and expenses (not the weekend at the local Travellodge) for the weekend.

Thomas went down massively in my estimation for all this.

If you can't do something for free for charity, don't do it imo.

come on, bob hope desereved a couple of quid in his pocket
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« Reply #273 on: February 12, 2009, 08:40:36 PM »

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« Reply #274 on: February 12, 2009, 08:56:46 PM »


Ugh.

The world gets sicker by the day.
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« Reply #275 on: February 12, 2009, 09:16:54 PM »


jeez,

the forums been happy vibe the past few days which you'd been moaning about  previously, then turn up and post on the one thread that's a bit of a downer about how sick the world is Roll Eyes
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« Reply #276 on: February 12, 2009, 09:53:50 PM »


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« Reply #277 on: February 18, 2009, 05:11:39 PM »

One of the events I attended had Thomas Kremser as TD.

I understand, he was given pay (and not £5 per hour!!!) and expenses (not the weekend at the local Travellodge) for the weekend.

Thomas went down massively in my estimation for all this.

If you can't do something for free for charity, don't do it imo.

Perhaps his fees/expenses had been covered by the event sponsor?  I do agree that people should "volunteer" their time for this sort of thing though.

I think The Tank explained the situation pretty well - there were certain big events which i'm sure raised a large amount of money for charity, but unfortunately certain ones (especially towards the end) were poorly attended and therefore struggled with running costs and adversely affected the overall figures for ratio of money taken to money donated.

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