Tribeca NL players

[the bus]

It seems theTank and the Bus have missed medication time again.

can it bob

The point is, there is evidence.

A conversation between two people can't be faked like that.

[Eskabor]

Do you realize what you are asking for? Handhistories of obvious cheating? Do you know how hard it would be to tell in a hand history obvious cheating by people who knew what they were doing? Any hand brenn and svindle played together on their various accounts is what I present as proof. Also every other thing I have mentioned in my several other posts. I'm not too nice to racist cheaters so excuse the name calling. I'm not above everything.

If everything presented to you is not proof enough.. frankly nothing will be proof enough to you besides cross referenced hand histories of every hand they played together on all these screenames we know and other we are likely unaware of. I just don't think you realize what your asking for when you are searching for proof like this.

[thetank]

A conversation between two people can't be faked like that.

I disagree.

[boldie]

Do you realize what you are asking for? Handhistories of obvious cheating? Do you know how hard it would be to tell in a hand history obvious cheating by people who knew what they were doing? Any hand brenn and svindle played together on their various accounts is what I present as proof. Also every other thing I have mentioned in my several other posts. I'm not too nice to racist cheaters so excuse the name calling. I'm not above everything.

If everything presented to you is not proof enough.. frankly nothing will be proof enough to you besides cross refrenced hand histories of every hand they played together on all these screenames we know and other we are likely unaware of. I just don't think you realize what your asking for when you are searching for proof like this.

Eskabor, i am not saying you are incorrect or that I'm not inclined to believe you. Howveer if you have hand histories then it would definetly help your cause in ym opinion.

[Eskabor]

Me too. It could be faked. So could any proof that people are asking for any short of me having access to all the info the poker site does, agreed?

[ifm]

nutter

[thetank]

frankly nothing will be proof enough to you besides cross refrenced hand histories of every hand they played together on all these screenames we know and other we are likely unaware of. I just don't think you realize what your asking for when you are searching for proof like this.

As this is the sort of thing that the site will have, maybe best leave it up to them for the whole judge jury executioner bit.

Nice of you to give the subjects a bit of advance warning that they are being investigated.

If they are guilty, they can move whatever cash they have before accounts get frozen.

[Eskabor]

Of course hand histories of obvious cheating would help me. But people don't realize what they are asking for when they ask for stuff like that. It is just unreasonable for someone to expect me to have proof like that.

[AndrewT]

Of course hand histories of obvious cheating would help me. But people don't realize what they are asking for when they ask for stuff like that. It is just unreasonable for someone to expect me to have proof like that.

If you ain't got the eggs, no point claiming you're going to have an omelette for dinner.

[thetank]

Then maybe you shouldn't be slandering in this manner.

If you think the guys are guilty, tell the relevant pokersite and let them deal with it - end of.

[Eskabor]

As this is the sort of thing that the site will have, maybe best leave it up to them for the whole judge jury executioner bit.

Nice of you to give the subjects a bit of advance warning that they are being investigated.

If they are guilty, they can move whatever cash they have before accounts get frozen.

I really am starting to fail to see your motives in any of your posts. You seem to keep on flip flopping. It seems there is nothing I could of done right by your logic thats why I brought up catch 22. I don't need them(the sites) to tell me if they are cheating or not when it was admitted to me... to me that is enough. The fact that the site hasn't already taken action is what distrubs me. Even if they found them not guilty somehow but it was admitted to me they were cheating in MSN logs what is my line? Once again you are assuming you know my intentions. I believe it is better to warn people who are playing them than wait for a dragged out investiagtion from sites who obviously didn't care in the first place(or there would be no need for this).

[Eskabor]

Svindle admitting it to me is not an Egg? A hand history of them playing together is not an Egg? Them living in the same house is not an Egg? The way svindle is refusing to handle it is not an Egg?

Anything short of DNA evidence you can say is fabricated in a situation like this. What do you really want? You really think the only way I should be doing this is if I have a handhistory of obvious cheating despite all of this? Come on... Please explain to me what a hand history of obvious cheating even looks like! It can all be denied one way or another, it doesn't mean the information shouldn't be out there.

Svindle slandered himself.

[tikay]

Money & greed are some combination .....

[tikay]

What if the two playing heads up are colluding??

That's nothing - I collude at Solitaire.

But there are  card-games where you are supposed to collude - ironically, one of them is called "Solo"...!

Anyone remember that? Solo, (5 tricks) Abundance ("Bundle") 9 tricks, Royal Abundance (9 tricks in the nominated suit), Mezzaire (sp), Mezzaire-Avere (sp). I adored playing Mezzaire. For those not aware, Mezzaire is a "Solo" game option in which you have to LOSE tricks, Mezzaire Avere is the same except you have to lose every trick (13) but before the round starts, but after losing the first trick, you place your cards FACE UP on the table. I really was vey good at Mezz - I guess that's where I learned to play losing hands.

Great game, thats how I learned to play cards, age 8,  I think its 'misere' as in misery and 'misere ouvert' open misery You can play other games 'misere' as well it just means changing the rules to lose, as in suicide chess.  Its also a concept in combinatorial game theory but anyway...

Thank you!

Never known how to spell that.

[Wardonkey]

Eskabor joined the forum at my request in March last year. We had been playing the same STTs for a month or so. He asked for my MSN contact details because he wanted to discuss rakeback and poaching other skins punters using the chatbox is not approved of by Tribeca. Not wanting to give him my MSN details I asked him to join the forum and send me a PM. This he did, offering me a generous rakeback deal. I did not accept the deal, despite it being signifigantly better than my arrangement at the time. The reasons I did not accept deal were;  I didn't know enough about Bet On Sports to trust them with my money and I had a good relationship with the skin I was using at the time. I had chatted with Eskabor at the tables he seemed like a decent bloke, he accepted my decision not to go to BOS in good grace leaving the offer open but not badgering me. 

Esky - if you are going to make such serious allegations then you need to provide proof. Not circumstantial evidence or conjecture it needs to be cast iron proof. If you have proof trapped on a damaged computer then get it retrieved if possible. Refering to proof that no-one can see is counter productive to your arguement.

Have you taken the information that you have to Tribeca? If so what was their response? This should have been your first course of action.