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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2007, 03:04:16 PM »

I think you're being unnecessarily hard on yourself Tighty.

I think allowances have to be made for the experience of the player involved in the mistake. If it was a novice who didn't know of the 'single oversize chip is a call' rule then your actions are fair enough. I have cut novices some slack before when it comes to that sort of thing (like showing them how to look at their cards so no one else can see them).

But Cupcake knows the score - he's made the final three tables at the World Series. If I'd been in his position, I would actually have been quite annoyed at you for not fulling making use of the situation I'd presented you with through my own carelessness.

Mistakes happen and in this situation I think you should have played the hand to win.  People could easily take exception to your passing as you did.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2007, 03:04:23 PM »

I must admit to being a little confused here. Cupcake had th option of not putting the last 900 in, but he chose to do it anyway. Why would the call have been un-sporting?

Because Tighty knew that Cupcake wanted to raise pre-flop - a bet that Tighty would never had called. so he thought 'by rights, I shouldn't even be in this hand, so I have no right to claim anything from the pot'.
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 03:09:28 PM »

I must admit to being a little confused here. Cupcake had th option of not putting the last 900 in, but he chose to do it anyway. Why would the call have been un-sporting?

Because Tighty knew that Cupcake wanted to raise pre-flop - a bet that Tighty would never had called. so he thought 'by rights, I shouldn't even be in this hand, so I have no right to claim anything from the pot'.

I see, thank you.  Cuppy still had the chance to limit the damage by not betting the last 900, so the call by Tighty would have been fine (imho)
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2007, 03:12:25 PM »

thats what my point was
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2007, 03:14:47 PM »

I must admit to being a little confused here. Cupcake had th option of not putting the last 900 in, but he chose to do it anyway. Why would the call have been un-sporting?

Because Tighty knew that Cupcake wanted to raise pre-flop - a bet that Tighty would never had called. so he thought 'by rights, I shouldn't even be in this hand, so I have no right to claim anything from the pot'.

I see, thank you.  Cuppy still had the chance to limit the damage by not betting the last 900, so the call by Tighty would have been fine (imho)

So we're both agreed - Tighty's getting soft in his old age...
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2007, 03:50:01 PM »


would you make the same play if you'd flopped quads?
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2007, 03:58:44 PM »

logically yes. I knew even a bad top pair was likely to be winning, and I consciously folded with that understanding.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2007, 04:02:14 PM »

cann i just ask tighty for just my own knowledge. Did cupcake tell you what cards he had?
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2007, 04:05:12 PM »

If you knew he had meant to raise, you could've just mucked your cards before the flop came. That perhaps would've been your best strategy.

I agree with Jim, he made the mistake by not announcing raise.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2007, 04:07:48 PM »

cann i just ask tighty for just my own knowledge. Did cupcake tell you what cards he had?


after the hand was over.
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2007, 04:09:08 PM »

it doesnt make a difference but did he have apiece of the flop?
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2007, 04:11:32 PM »

it doesnt make a difference but did he have apiece of the flop?

In tightys original post he said he never had a piece of it
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2007, 04:13:23 PM »

it doesnt make a difference but did he have apiece of the flop?

In tightys original post he said he never had a piece of it

something like KJ,K9 etc ie a miss
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2007, 04:14:08 PM »

cheers jim. should have read that myself- doh!
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2007, 04:24:52 PM »

I think you're being hard on yourself tighty. However, the thing I probably would have done is muck pre-flop. Once I hit the flop and think my opponent hasn't he's not doing a grand job by sticking in his chips and I reckon I would have called if I'd hit the flop.
I think you're a gent for folding don't get me wrong, but folding pre-flop was the thing to do in my opinion.
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