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tantrum
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Re: worth considering
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January 23, 2007, 03:57:47 PM »
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Not only that, but she had the temerity to disguise her racism by living and having a child with someone of Chinese origin.
How crafty.
Having child with somone who is of chinese origins does not mean one can't be racist. But having a mix race child and joining BNP must be an interesting for this child to read some literature that BNP produces every year. Even more reason to fire her.
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January 23, 2007, 04:00:43 PM »
It is a fair point that you can't deny people a voice, just because their political views clash with your own.
Let them say a, b and see all them Muslims, we should send them home. Attacking their right to express this contradicts the very values our free society is based upon.
Denying people a voice is totalitarian, not a very lefty form of governing that. I do feel sorry for the ballerina.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on January 23, 2007, 03:53:44 PM
Quote from: Sark79 on January 23, 2007, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: tantrum on January 23, 2007, 03:44:20 PM
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I am not a supporter of the BNP, but it is a legal party. I thought it was terrible the negative attitudes towards a ballerina reported as a BNP supporter recently in the news. She has a right to vote for whoever she wants. It is suppose to be a free Country after all, but sometimes I get the feeling we are not aloud to express any point of view which is slightly against the norm.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6241763.stm
poor racist balerina, I feel for her....
lol, I am not in agreement with her. I just think she should be allowed to vote for whoever she wants without being criticised for it. I would never vote for Conservatives because of their stance on the hunting ban, but that doesn't mean I think it is wrong for pro hunting supporters to vote for that Party. We should all have freedom of speech
So tell me Sark, are you criticising the people who criticised her?
Good point. It is wrong to attack one person because she is in the public eye, they don't go after the BNP supporter who works on the local fish market or the bus driver who votes BNP.
Ok, I will leave it there on this one
, you have me. I have just spotted a massive flaw in my argument as I fully support animal rights activists who target a high profile celeb who wears fur, etc.
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January 23, 2007, 04:13:05 PM »
Well meaning protestors, but ffs.
Demanding that someone be fired for their political beliefs is not only such a huge contradiction to the left wing platform I assume most of them advocate, but their doing so only serves to strengthen the BNP party.
Lobby the politicians, speak to the public on the issues, but leave the friggin dancers be.
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January 23, 2007, 04:13:42 PM »
Quote from: booder on January 23, 2007, 01:23:17 PM
Two Proposals Worth Considering...
New Gas Plan...
Blair wants us to cut the amount of fuel we use. The best way to Stop using so much fuel is to deport 5 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 5 million less people using our fuel. The price of fuel would have to come down as a result, and global warming slowed.
New Immigration Plan...
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the border. When they catch An illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq . Tell him if he wants to come to Britain, then he must serve a tour in the military. Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it. After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he fought for this country.
He will also be registered to be taxed and! be a legal patriot. This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq , and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.
Problem solved.
Booder the first part is sound mate about shipping the spongers out, but remember not all are spongers. Alot are genuine people like ourselves who have been persecuted, had their family members tortured and killed. Most of the British Public sit in their little houses and grind out daily life with one or two holidays a year to the seaside or if there lucky, away to foreign beaches. They read the papers and listen to the news, all of which is TRUE. lol
On my second tour of Bosnia we used to visit a family of Muslims(1 old boy 80's and 7 women 80 down to 3 yrs old) every 6 weeks. The men were fighting or dead. They were pretty isolated and due to move out as refugees when the mother gave birth. She was 8 months pregnant but was intent on her child growing up in Germany or England. As part of of our T.A.O.R (Tactical Area Of Response) we would report on these families in remote locations. We got quite friendly and would give them brown biscuits and boiled sweets out of our Ration Packs (horrible).
Our August visit there was one l will not forget as we found them nailed to nearby trees with the mothers breasts cut off and her near full size baby hanging by the umbilical cord from her cut open belly. There feet had been chewed by scavengers and the girls aged 16 and 11 had been violently raped before been bayoneted in the eyes. I had to put a white scenes of crime suit on with 5 others from my patrol and photograph this all and then put all the bodies in bodybags. I remember we had not enough so l told the lads to use bin bags we had in the Warriors (an armoured vehicile) for rubbish. We travelled back with these bodies in the back. It took us three days getting back as we had to complete our patrol. Lads that were in the back with these bodies never recovered and had to return to England.
That family never made it to England, but l wish they had because l know they would have worked hard for a simple life. The Serbs that done this were never brought to justice.
As for the second part of your suggestion Booder. Unfortunately a man just can't take a gun and go to a warzone as his life expectancy is very low. It takes an average of 112k of taxpayers money to train a basic Infantryman, another 14k to kit him out and 1k per week in logistics to keep him going in a warzone. Don't think your suggestion will work mate.
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Quote from: Slick Kid on January 23, 2007, 04:13:42 PM
Unfortunately a man just can't take a gun and go to a warzone as his life expectancy is very low. It takes an average of 112k of taxpayers money to train a basic Infantryman, another 14k to kit him out and 1k in logistics to keep him going in a warzone. Don't think your suggestion will work mate.
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Re: worth considering
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Quote from: Slick Kid on January 23, 2007, 04:13:42 PM
Booder the first part is sound mate about shipping the spongers out, but remember not all are spongers. Alot are genuine people like ourselves who have been persecuted, had their family members tortured and killed. Most of the British Public sit in their little houses and grind out daily life with one or two holidays a year to the seaside or if there lucky, away to foreign beaches. They read the papers and listen to the news, all of which is TRUE. lol
On my second tour of Bosnia we used to visit a family of Muslims(1 old boy 80's and 7 women 80 down to 3 yrs old) every 6 weeks. The men were fighting or dead. They were pretty isolated and due to move out as refugees when the mother gave birth. She was 8 months pregnant but was intent on her child growing up in Germany or England. As part of of our T.A.O.R (Tactical Area Of Response) we would report on these families in remote locations. We got quite friendly and would give them brown biscuits and boiled sweets out of our Ration Packs (horrible).
Our August visit there was one l will not forget as we found them nailed to nearby trees with the mothers breasts cut off and her near full size baby hanging by the umbilical cord from her cut open belly. There feet had been chewed by scavengers and the girls aged 16 and 11 had been violently raped before been bayoneted in the eyes. I had to put a white scenes of crime suit on with 5 others from my patrol and photograph this all and then put all the bodies in bodybags. I remember we had not enough so l told the lads to use bin bags we had in the Warriors (an armoured vehicile) for rubbish. We travelled back with these bodies in the back. It took us three days getting back as we had to complete our patrol. Lads that were in the back with these bodies never recovered and had to return to England.
That family never made it to England, but l wish they had because l know they would have worked hard for a simple life. The Serbs that done this were never brought to justice.
As for the second part of your suggestion Booder. Unfortunately a man just can't take a gun and go to a warzone as his life expectancy is very low. It takes an average of 112k of taxpayers money to train a basic Infantryman, another 14k to kit him out and 1k per week in logistics to keep him going in a warzone. Don't think your suggestion will work mate.
That's a great post and a good point well made Mick.
I've always respected you, one because you're a strong willed, individual type of person, and two because you are a good dog man. (anyone who loves and understands dogs cant be all bad)
If you weren't such a prickly ba***rd, I could even start to like you.
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Quote from: tantrum on January 23, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
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Not only that, but she had the temerity to disguise her racism by living and having a child with someone of Chinese origin.
How crafty.
Having child with somone who is of chinese origins does not mean one can't be racist. But having a mix race child and joining BNP must be an interesting for this child to read some literature that BNP produces every year. Even more reason to fire her.
I'm not saying she's not dim - she'd have to be to endorse the BNP whilst having a mixed race child.
She's not racist though.
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January 23, 2007, 04:38:52 PM »
The protestors time would be better spent lobying the Conservative and Labour Parties, saying that support is being gained by extreme right wing fringes because neither of them are speaking to the country, in a way they can get ahold of, as to how to handle immigration, the big issue of the day.
I'm no politician, but I'd love to see someone speak on this, without trying to pander and sit on the fence. Rallying the country around big ideas and ideals.
I don't care if the stance they take is to the right, or the left, but they need to be firm, resolute and speak in a way that makes people believe they actually know what they are talking about.
While to the left of this myself, I'd much rather the government handled it in a manner not of my choosing, than BNP gain 100 more seats in local councils.
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January 23, 2007, 04:40:56 PM »
Anyone else not think boo was just having a laugh?
Mick that post was truely horrible.
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January 23, 2007, 04:41:28 PM »
Quote from: Slick Kid on January 23, 2007, 04:13:42 PM
Booder the first part is sound mate about shipping the spongers out, but remember not all are spongers. Alot are genuine people like ourselves who have been persecuted, had their family members tortured and killed. Most of the British Public sit in their little houses and grind out daily life with one or two holidays a year to the seaside or if there lucky, away to foreign beaches. They read the papers and listen to the news, all of which is TRUE. lol
On my second tour of Bosnia we used to visit a family of Muslims(1 old boy 80's and 7 women 80 down to 3 yrs old) every 6 weeks. The men were fighting or dead. They were pretty isolated and due to move out as refugees when the mother gave birth. She was 8 months pregnant but was intent on her child growing up in Germany or England. As part of of our T.A.O.R (Tactical Area Of Response) we would report on these families in remote locations. We got quite friendly and would give them brown biscuits and boiled sweets out of our Ration Packs (horrible).
Our August visit there was one l will not forget as we found them nailed to nearby trees with the mothers breasts cut off and her near full size baby hanging by the umbilical cord from her cut open belly. There feet had been chewed by scavengers and the girls aged 16 and 11 had been violently raped before been bayoneted in the eyes. I had to put a white scenes of crime suit on with 5 others from my patrol and photograph this all and then put all the bodies in bodybags. I remember we had not enough so l told the lads to use bin bags we had in the Warriors (an armoured vehicile) for rubbish. We travelled back with these bodies in the back. It took us three days getting back as we had to complete our patrol. Lads that were in the back with these bodies never recovered and had to return to England.
That family never made it to England, but l wish they had because l know they would have worked hard for a simple life. The Serbs that done this were never brought to justice.
As for the second part of your suggestion Booder. Unfortunately a man just can't take a gun and go to a warzone as his life expectancy is very low. It takes an average of 112k of taxpayers money to train a basic Infantryman, another 14k to kit him out and 1k per week in logistics to keep him going in a warzone. Don't think your suggestion will work mate.
On a related note, I find it infuriating when a vocal minority of British Muslims criticise the British foreign policy as 'anti-Muslim' - conveniently ignoring our involvement in Bosnia, and the fact that the war in Iraq was (partly) in order to give the people of Iraq (the majority of whom are Muslims) freedom from a tyranical dictator.
Not condoning (or condemning) the war in Iraq, but just highlighting a point.
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Quote from: tantrum on January 23, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
Having child with somone who is of chinese origins does not mean one can't be racist. But having a mix race child and joining BNP must be an interesting for this child to read some literature that BNP produces every year. Even more reason to fire her.
You don't have to agree with a political party's platform 100% to support them. If that were the case, you'd need 50,000 different political parties in the country, as you rarely meet people who agree on everything.
Peter Snow couldn't cope with that many, poor guy is getting on a bit.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on January 23, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
Anyone else not think boo was just having a laugh?
Mick that post was truely horrible.
Yes and yes.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on January 23, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
Anyone else not think boo was just having a laugh?
Duhhhh
It's all about exposing tantrum as a Nazi now.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on January 23, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
Anyone else not think boo was just having a laugh?
Yep, but it is started now
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