ROI?

[AdamM]

I must give VC a try sometime

[TheJagster]

Mine is 166%  

165% profit, 265% return!

I HATE YOU, I HATE YOU, I HATE YOU

<<<<<<<<<< runs off to bedroom to sulk   

[TightEnd]

Flushy has just saved VC millions in advertising

who's going to join me in torpedoing flushies ROI?

[snoopy1239]

Mine is 166%  

165% profit, 265% return!

I HATE YOU, I HATE YOU, I HATE YOU

<<<<<<<<<< runs off to bedroom to sulk   

okay, okay. mine might be a slight fib. 

[AdamM]

thats why I say I'll have to try VC, I've seen some of Flushys play, must be easy pickings

[ariston]

Can I include satelitte wins in my ROI? If so all I can say to 165% is pah nice try flushy . If I can't include sats I will say well played sir ahem .

[TightEnd]

is VC the same software/same players as BlueSq then?

[luckyblind]

Agree Ian if its a hobby then you shouldnt get to caught up in it.

Adam i just spoke to Ian on MSN and he said i should probably explain my results as others may doubt it.

Like i said 1 big result can skew your ROI, now i stay away from the large field events because i think the variance in them is too high for someone who depends on the return from tournaments to live off. I stick to the tournaments with less than 200 runners, sometimes 300. They are mostly rebuys but occasionly freezeouts. Almost always on the tribeca network, i.e. VC/BlueSquare

Now i did play the 25k about 8 weeks ago and i won it which bumped my ROI up a fair bit, infact if i take it out then my ROI drops to just over 215% this is still fairly high and i credit that to, an improved game/style suited to this style of tournament, and also to game selection.

The tribeca network is full of rebuy events, and quite often runs sats to these, if you are prepared to rebuy in these events when 1/2 the field isnt, then you hold a massive advantage, especially as you can take an instant rebuy. Couple this with the 15 min clock in these 'grand-final' events, which are the ones with sats to them, when a lot of the players tend to play the 8 minute events, it gives a good player a much bigger edge. And the biggest gain in my game i believe is bubble play, i used to listen to pros talk about it and think 'yeah it makes a diffrence but surely not that much' i now realise it does. To give you an idea my cash rate is quite low (i do bubble a lot) at 28%, but my final rate is 20%!!! That is why my ROI is as high as it is.

I hope that explains some of it.

Very good post. Absolutely true, the Tribeca networks takes a bit of adjusting to but once you have the right style then you can be a very profitable MTT player. I play it through Paddy Power and all my good online results have come through it. I spent a lot of time away from it playing on Pokerstars exclusively and while I won now and again and thanks to a $200 Sunday final I am well up on pokerstars, I played so many events with large fields and had relatively few cashes. The only good thing was that usually when I cashed it was a good one. The experience you get playing on a site like pokerstars is invaluable though when you come back to 'fishier' sites like Tribeca.

Of course no one can beat Pokerstars for satellites. 3 major event qualifications this year after last night!!!

[TightEnd]

Agree Ian if its a hobby then you shouldnt get to caught up in it.

Adam i just spoke to Ian on MSN and he said i should probably explain my results as others may doubt it.

Like i said 1 big result can skew your ROI, now i stay away from the large field events because i think the variance in them is too high for someone who depends on the return from tournaments to live off. I stick to the tournaments with less than 200 runners, sometimes 300. They are mostly rebuys but occasionly freezeouts. Almost always on the tribeca network, i.e. VC/BlueSquare

Now i did play the 25k about 8 weeks ago and i won it which bumped my ROI up a fair bit, infact if i take it out then my ROI drops to just over 215% this is still fairly high and i credit that to, an improved game/style suited to this style of tournament, and also to game selection.

The tribeca network is full of rebuy events, and quite often runs sats to these, if you are prepared to rebuy in these events when 1/2 the field isnt, then you hold a massive advantage, especially as you can take an instant rebuy. Couple this with the 15 min clock in these 'grand-final' events, which are the ones with sats to them, when a lot of the players tend to play the 8 minute events, it gives a good player a much bigger edge. And the biggest gain in my game i believe is bubble play, i used to listen to pros talk about it and think 'yeah it makes a diffrence but surely not that much' i now realise it does. To give you an idea my cash rate is quite low (i do bubble a lot) at 28%, but my final rate is 20%!!! That is why my ROI is as high as it is.

I hope that explains some of it.

james, are you talking only about the inital top up giving you a massive advantage or a willingness to rebuy through the whole rebuy period? (enabling you to play to hit draws)

[ariston]

Well played last night lucky. 3 in a year is good but still puts you 2 behind londonpokergirl and another blondite 

[Gamblor21]

Yes it is the same software... think me and flushy now play mainly thru bluesq!

with his scandi alias flushroyal!

Its willing to rebuy throughout the whole of the buyin period, alot of people use this tactic well! And are often at the top of the leader board in every comp!FuGu is a good example...

[Royal Flush]

wow a lot of replys!

First of all Jaggers, nothing new there! (i hate you for beating me in the Blonde HU comp!!) P.S. BBC aint coming today so i may be up for Bolton.....

If you fancy trying the network out i recomened blue square, they have added money comps each night, most are small but the saturday 1 aint bad.

Ariston if you incude sats i think i would have to hang my head in shame! But that is my point exactly, stats can be misleading.

Adam, grrrr, after all that good dealing i did in Newcastle for you! I even tricked someone into exposing thier hand before you had called so you knew you would be ahead!!

LuckyBlind exactly the point, it is a diffrent kind of game to any of the sites i have played, i like stars but the game is tougher, although you get players calling all in with A5 there, they tend to stop after the rebuys, whereas on VC/BS/PPP they keep doing it all the way to the final!!

TightEnd i mean both, you will see all the good MTT players on there take an addon str8 away, unless they win the first hand (god i hate that) and continue to rebuy if they need too, the value is there... I once took 10, yes 10 rebuys in the 7.5k g'td 1 night @ $28.35 a shot, i hadnt really done anything wrong, just missed some big draws and had some hands cracked, even with just 6k after the rebuys i managed to get a quick double up then play the game. I ended 3rd that night for just over 1k.

Tribeca gets a bad rep becuase of a few things, like the payout structure (they only pay 27 places for any amount of runners over 156, yes 156 runners pays 27 and the 900+ runners in the 50k last night also paid 27! Add in all the old hendon forum crap about collusion/'dodgy rivers' and a lot of the better players have stayed away.

Gl to any of those who fancy giving it a go, i know At-It is playing on there more and more these days, and if you do look out for Royal Flush/Flush Royal and say hello!

[TightEnd]

ty, I only signed up for the GP qualifiers, now I'll give a few MTT's a go.

[AdamM]

Adam, grrrr, after all that good dealing i did in Newcastle for you! I even tricked someone into exposing thier hand before you had called so you knew you would be ahead!!

certainly made the hand easier to play. the good job dealing compensated for the shameless begging for sponsorship ging on at the same time

[Royal Flush]

lol.

Just be glad i wasnt asking for free t-shirts!!!

TE you should, but give it time to learn to adjust to the game there, its a little wild!