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[Irishdenis]

Hi,
 I thought I would share with you a final table experience I had in Ireland in January. The comp was £100 freeze. Seventy six runners and we are down to the last four. The chip leader has two thirds of the chips in play and is not a named player. The rest of us have about the same in chips with me a little under the other two. The only player I know on the table is a well known Irish player from Dublin. He is to my left and I am to the left of the big stack.
On the big stack's big blind the well known player asks for a deal. The chip leader says no and I think that is the end of the matter. He then turns to the other chap and myself and says " why don't we chop 2nd 3th and 4th prize and take on the big stack. That way one of us might win".  I think I have misheard and look at the dealer. The dealer says nothing and so I ask the player if he is serious. "Of course" and he sees nothing wrong with the idea. What follows is a few minutes of chat between us all which finishes with me stating that not only will I not be part of this but every chance I get I will move in on him.  i should say that their is an extra prize in this comp of a free seat for first and second to a £500 event in May. As look would have it I find AA against KK to knock out the first player. I then find QQ against 10 ,10 to knock out our friend and end up heads up against the original chip leader. This chap asks for no deal but I give him some extra to add insult to our friend.  What I cant believe is that even after the event he could not see what was wrong with his idea ! ! ! !

[thetank]

There's a thread from last year where Rob Young got himself into a similar situation at Notts Gala I think.

May be of interest, I'll see if I can find it.

[Royal Flush]

It's pretty much out and out cheating, glad to see you took them out then took it down.

[thetank]

Might have been 2005, I can't seem to find it. Sorry

Big fuss as I recall, and everyone agreed it was cheating.

[M3boy]

Wasnt Rob Young.

It was during the 2005 UK Open.

Victor Kanwar would not deal (I wasn't dealing either but kept quiet) - one guy suggests splitting the rest of the money and ganging up on him.

Myself and Chubbs kindly pointed out it was cheating.

[Bongo]

I remember the RY story too tank.

[thetank]

That would explain why I can't find the thread, but I'm quite sure it was robyong. Maybe it was two different comps?

Anyway, we all agree it's cheating, but what's the best and simplest way of explaining why to somebody who doesn't see the problem with it?

[Royal Flush]

I think it was Blackpool if memory serves and Yogi laid down the law awarding the CL first place and the other 3 split the 3 prizes.

[thetank]

Blimmin TAGs 

Club together at the expense of the hard working LAG. Just plain wrong.

[Ginger]

I remember the story Tank is talking about, and it was indeed Rob Yong, and Notts Gala. The other players started talking another language to collude when Rob wouldn't agree to a deal, Rob ended up walking out in disgust.

Can't find it anywhere through searching but remember the story well, quite dispicable.

[snoopy1239]

The Rob Yong one was from Gala with about 4 left. I think they tried to gang up on him, staff did nothing and Rob threw his chips away in rage.

... if I remember correctly.

[Highstack]

Who was the "well known Irish player?" Are we allowed to name and shame on here?

[M3boy]

Apologies Tank - didnt realise there were two stories.

[thetank]

No worries.

[tikay]

Wasnt Rob Young.

It was during the 2005 UK Open.

Victor Kanwar would not deal (I wasn't dealing either but kept quiet) - one guy suggests splitting the rest of the money and ganging up on him.

Myself and Chubbs kindly pointed out it was cheating.

Correct, it was at Luton, & Victor Kanwar eventully won, Chubbs 2nd, & I seem to recall, M3Boy took a horrible beat with JJ when Victor called him with A-3 & hit.

The Rob Yong story is a different one, but also true.