General Fighting thread

[Rooky9]

Not a bad record for a mackem

[scotty2hatty]

Kimbo v. Shamrock was meant to be on had Shamrock won as he was expected to.  Good chance it'll be Berry instead now.  I didn't realise 'til last night that it was Elite XC Cage Rage.

Anyone know of a site where I can watch last night's fights?

[AdamM]

The cage rage aquuisition is fairly recent.

Kimbo in London in the summer maybe.

[byronkincaid]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ys-mmaweekpishna031208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Anderson really would love to fight Roy Jones, Jr. in a boxing match,” said Ed Soares, Silva’s manager. “It’s not just talk, we really would like to put that fight together

[AdamM]

Very interesting. Obviously in the octagon, Silva would destroy any boxer in the world. He thinks he could fight him in pure boxing too and who am I to disagree. The guy is an incredible fighter.

Asking Anderson Silva to fight only using his hands is like asking Cristiano Ronaldo to play football against an average footballer only using his feet. No knees, thighs, head, chest. He may well still be better than most, but you're not showing the difference between him and another player with that experiment.

I'd pay good money to see it, I know that.

[AdamM]

Matt Serra now 4.1 against GSP. Odds are definitely too long.

[AdamM]

Also, Ultimate Fight Night on 5th April, Tim Boetch is 2.86 to beat Matt Hamill and I think he's favourite in the fight.
I also think Joe Lauzon is capable of beating Kenny Florian, but the odds are about right at 2.6

[AdamM]

Entertaining UFC fight Night last week shown on Bravo Staurday.

Kenny Florian showed his class against Joe Lauzon, who I think is a dangerous fighter. Florian will fight the winner of Penn v Sherk in the summer (Penn I hope, and Florian will lose it)

Other good fights shown were
Tim Boetch v Matt Hamill. Boetch was doing a good job, winning the first round and it looked like he was about to pull a finish out of the bag when Hamill got a take down and TKO stoppage in the second. Boetch has taken two fights at very short notice now. If he gets a decent advance booking, I think he could take a few scalps.

Thiago Alves knocked Karo Parisian flat out. Karo claims it was an early stoppage but for once, I think Steve Mazzagatti got it right.

Mazzagatti did manage a cock up though, when Houston Alexander got stunned by a huge superman punch, followed by a big shot on the ground from James Irvine. He was stunned but the stoppage was early. Alexander would have covered up or grabbed Irvine if Mazzagatti hadn't dived in.

Nate Diaz got beaten up in the first round of his fight but pulled out a really classy triangle choke in the second round. That boy is a future lightweight champion.

Maynard v Edgar was a war and I think the 30-27 judges score don't do Edgar justice. very competetive fight.

Anthony Johnsons destruction of Tommy Speer was embarressing. how that guy made the final of the last TUF I have no idea. Ox strong farm boy isn't enough.

On a slightly different subject, I saw Barry Hearn on Soccer AM on saturday. He's putting on a boxing tournament on froday. 8 unknown heavyweights fighting quater final, semi final and final in one night. all 3 round fights. He's trying to emulate what UFC was doing 15 years ago and eventually figured out doesn't work because fighters either conserve their energy in early fights because they know they have to fight twice more, or they get so banged up they can't perform properly in the final. There are many reasons why MMA is taking over from boxing as the top combat sport and the top PPV draw. This isn't one of them. stinks of desperation for me.

Oh, and Matt Serra at 4.4 now

[Rod Paradise]

Having soad that I was talking with my flatmate and I'm pretty sure that if I was ever stupid enough to get into one of those cages I dont think I'd have it in me to start lashing at someone I had just knocked to the floor. Unless he had just called my Mum.

Anyone with Rooky's mum's number on their phone deletes it

[AdamM]

UFC 83 predictions

George St Pierre v Matt Serra
I love watching GSP fight and he's a decent favourite to beat Serra. However, Serra knocked GSP out last year and what ever people say, there's no such thing as a lucky punch in the cage. Serra is capable of knocking him out, but as with the first fight, his plan will probably to strike on his way in, to try and get it to the mat where he has superior BJJ. Money is on Serra at 3.5 - 4.5 but it really could go either way.

Rich Franklin v Travis Lutter
Franklin might be struggling to make an impression on Anderson Silva but that's making people forget how good Franklin is compared to the rest of the middleweight world. Dominant Franklin win.

Kalib Starnes v Nate Quarry
Quarry should have to much for Starnes, who's best chance is to make it a scrap and stiffle Quarry's technical advantages. Nate Quarry TKO

Mike Bisping v Charles McCarthy
I think Bisping will be a force at middleweight and McCarthy is going to take a beating.

Mac Danzig v Mark Bokec
Danzig is a huge lightweight prospect. Early submission win

McDonald to beat Doerkson

don't know a few of the undercard fighters, so who knows about the rest.

Shows Sunday night on Bravo.

[Benny Brox]

Seems a decent card, I think GSP will beat Serra but wouldn't put a bet on it. 4/1 for Serra's a great price in a 2 horse race, he's not that big an underdog.

Other results should be standard although I hope Danzig gets the shit kicked out him. Absolute joke that he was on the Ultimate Fighter, thought it was mean for relatively unexperienced upcoming talents, he was already a well established fighter and a huge favourite to win before the show even began. As for the undercard, Alan Belcher is a great striker and a great prospect for the future but don't know shit about his opponent. Clementi/Stout should be a decent fight.

Anyone see Gamburyan's last fight I think it was at Fight Night. At the start of round 1 they came out and went to touch gloves, the wee bastard then took advantage of that and skelped his opponent with a cheeky kick instead. Another case of wee man syndrome perhaps, hope he gets his comeuppance soon like his asshole of a cousin did at Fight Night.

[AdamM]

Pretty much all the TUF contestants are experienced fighters who work with the big name gyms, although granted, Danzig was more experienced than most.
He's a cracking fighter though. Going to be in the top 10 lightweights pretty soon and a serious contender in a year or two.

Didn't see the Gamburian fight but it sounds like you're as big a fan of him and Parisian as I am. Remember that bust up between him and Nate Diaz in the TUF dressing room? I'd love to see Nate matched up with Gamburian and if he hadn't left to fight in IFL I'd love to see Nick Diaz beat some humility into Parisian.

[Benny Brox]

Pretty much all the TUF contestants are experienced fighters who work with the big name gyms, although granted, Danzig was more experienced than most.
He's a cracking fighter though. Going to be in the top 10 lightweights pretty soon and a serious contender in a year or two.

Didn't see the Gamburian fight but it sounds like you're as big a fan of him and Parisian as I am. Remember that bust up between him and Nate Diaz in the TUF dressing room? I'd love to see Nate matched up with Gamburian and if he hadn't left to fight in IFL I'd love to see Nick Diaz beat some humility into Parisian.

I'd love to see that too although Gumburyan was winning the TUF finale until his forfeit. Although they get a lot of stick I quite like the Diaz brothers, there's no shit about them at all, not in it for the chicks or the money just there to try and be the best and have a good scrap.

There was no competition in the TUF 6 show for Danzig, maybe George the Greek, but nobody else. This year's TUF has started of quality, devastating knockout and some sick fights already and that's just to get onto the show. Rampage is a funny dude as well so should be a good series. I managed to get a ticket for the Rampage Griffin fight in Vegas, looking forward to it.

[AdamM]

Rampage and Forrest are hilarious. They're both great ambassadors for the game. Ego's well in check and both excellent fighters. I'm tipping Forrest to win that by the way and hope for some decent odds.

The Diaz Bros are nutters, pure and simple. fight for the sake of fighting. Very technical Ju Jitsu but happy to stand and bang with anyone. Always an entertaining fight. Nate is another one that'll be troubling the top of the lightweight division very soon. That's a hell of a weight class. Penn, Sherk, Florian, Huerta, Diaz, Danzig, Edgar, Gamburyan, Griffin, Guida, Lauzon, Stevenson just at a glance at the list.

[scotty2hatty]

Bisping is ripped, good victory.