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JungleCat03
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Pool Rules
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April 08, 2007, 01:50:11 AM »
Right now.
I like a game of pool but pretty much every time I go out to play, there is some sort of argument over what rules to play.
I want those of you who play pool to give me your version of the following rules so we can come to some sort of concensus that will prevent these rucks occurring.
We're talking common or garden 15 ball, 7 spot/ 7 stripe pool.
These seem to be the contentious rules....
1) Potting the black off the break means you win the game.
2) You pot two balls of different "suits" off the break, you decide whether you are spots or stripes by nominating one or the other, irrespective of whether you go on to pot one, and this stands.
3) After a foul you must play the white from where it stops or if potted place the white behind the line(ie you cant pick the ball up and move it a la 9 ball pool rules). You also have two shots (although see later rule *)
4) If the ball is potted/leaves the table and you have to place it on the table behind the line, you have two shots and you can shoot in any direction (ie no ban on shooting backwards)
5)* If you have two shots, and keep a shot in hand up to the black you can use the shot in hand on the black. If however you are on the black and your opponent fouls you only get one shot (a rule which seems to have about 50 versions depending on where you are in the country)
6) Coughing loudly on key shots (usually the black) is not permitted and punishable by being left out of the next round.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
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Re: Pool Rules
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April 08, 2007, 01:51:01 AM »
PS Im fully expecting Kev to reply saying "No Heavy Petting"
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Re: Pool Rules
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April 08, 2007, 01:55:53 AM »
i used to be the match sec of local league
you do knowe tehre are 3 offical set of rules in uk and countless number of local rules
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April 08, 2007, 02:01:02 AM »
Trouble is Rod, there are several Versions of the Rules.
Easier if you stick to County Rules - they are widely recognised, although these change all the time.
From a few years back playing county rules :
1) No, it is a re rack and the other person gets to break
2) No, you have to pot your chosen colour. If you nominate then miss, it is an open table. It is the "first legal ball potted" than nominates your colour
3) True, although you get a "free" ball (ie you can hit or pot your opponents ball) if you cannot hit at least half of one of your balls directly
4) True
5) 2 shots carry to the black also 2 shots if just the black left and you foul.
6) ??
Like I siad though, these were county rules from a couple of years back
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April 08, 2007, 02:03:42 AM »
Official World Pool Rules can be found here :
http://www.epa.org.uk/wrules.php
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April 08, 2007, 02:04:19 AM »
1) yes potting black off break wins game
2) Yes you get to nominate which ever one you want irrespective of missing the next shot on it.
3) agreed
4) This is where we differ, in my area if the ball you are trying to pot leaves table we put said ball down pocket and award opponent 2 shots.
5)This again is slightly different. If you are both on the black then a foul does not result in 2 shots. If one person is on the black and the other has balls left to pot then 2 shots will be awarded.
6) Slightly less strict on this with us but is a bit more focused on etiquette than in the rules. It is obviously seen as bad form and not something anybody i know would do. More strict on stuff like the opponent having his hand on the table (obviously not felt, the outer part) as the other is playing a shot.
Edit- also we dont carry 2 shots, thought that was old school rules now. You obviously get a free ball 1st time but if you pot a ball, you dont get another free ball then.
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April 08, 2007, 02:07:13 AM »
King Poker, you may want to read the link i posted above, as you seem to have no idea about Pool rules! lol
With refernece to point one, it now seems that it is just a re rack and the same player breaks again - how bizare! Always used to be the "other" player got to break.
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Quote from: M3boy on April 08, 2007, 02:07:13 AM
King Poker, you may want to read the link i posted above, as you seem to have no idea about Pool rules! lol
With refernece to point one, it now seems that it is just a re rack and the same player breaks again - how bizare! Always used to be the "other" player got to break.
I do conceed to rule 1, that was more pub rules than league rules coz it never came up when i played in the league but the other ones are the official rules we used to have to comply to in the pool leagues in wales (insert comment about everything being backwards in wales).
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April 08, 2007, 02:12:11 AM »
Jesus!
Just had a quick look at those rules, BOY have they changed.
It now seems that if 2 balls are potted, and you nominate, then that IS your colour irrespective of if you pot one or not on the next shot.
Another Rule that seems to be in tact, and causes alot of confusion is :
You break, and pot a yellow, then announce to take "reds" before your next shot you then are playing reds, AS LONG AS YOU POT A RED ON YOUR NEXT SHOT - totally acceptable.
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April 08, 2007, 02:16:04 AM »
Yeh that one cause a lot of "debate" when the old timers play you!
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April 08, 2007, 02:18:08 AM »
King, seems 2 shots DO carry over still.
I can remember when the "legal shot" came in, ie where you had to either pot a ball, or make a ball strike a cushion after hitting your object ball - GREAT rule and I am glad it still applies.
Stopped all that "tap up" behind your ball shit.
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Quote from: M3boy on April 08, 2007, 02:18:08 AM
King, seems 2 shots DO carry over still.
I can remember when the "legal shot" came in, ie where you had to either pot a ball, or make a ball strike a cushion after hitting your object ball - GREAT rule and I am glad it still applies.
Stopped all that "tap up" behind your ball shit.
I gotta be honest thought i hate the carry rule. I was so glad when everyone stopped using it. Not going to be too forthcoming about telling everyone about this when i play next lol
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Quote from: JungleCat03 on April 08, 2007, 01:50:11 AM
Right now.
I like a game of pool but pretty much every time I go out to play, there is some sort of argument over what rules to play.
I want those of you who play pool to give me your version of the following rules so we can come to some sort of concensus that will prevent these rucks occurring.
We're talking common or garden 15 ball, 7 spot/ 7 stripe pool.
These seem to be the contentious rules....
1) Potting the black off the break means you win the game.
Rerack
2) You pot two balls of different "suits" off the break, you decide whether you are spots or stripes by nominating one or the other, irrespective of whether you go on to pot one, and this stands.
First ball potted as you don't nominate because it is still a free table.
3) After a foul you must play the white from where it stops or if potted place the white behind the line(ie you cant pick the ball up and move it a la 9 ball pool rules). You also have two shots (although see later rule *)
You can play it from where it is or move it behind the line
4) If the ball is potted/leaves the table and you have to place it on the table behind the line, you have two shots and you can shoot in any direction (ie no ban on shooting backwards)
Anyway you want
5)* If you have two shots, and keep a shot in hand up to the black you can use the shot in hand on the black. If however you are on the black and your opponent fouls you only get one shot (a rule which seems to have about 50 versions depending on where you are in the country)
2 shots for all fouls regardless of object ball
6) Coughing loudly on key shots (usually the black) is not permitted and punishable by being left out of the next round.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
I play in a local league and these are the rules we/they play to.
Some bizarre ones to add:-
When on the black the pocket must be nominated EVEN if you are not trying to pot it, foul is called otherwise.
If you have 2 shots and want to move the white behind the line you must not do it yourself, the ref has to.
No coaching once the table has been touched (no talking to team mates after you touch the table)
Deliberate foul loses the game (sensible that one)
No legal shot is a rerack (if you can't physically hit the object ball, say it's completely blocked off)
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April 08, 2007, 02:44:29 AM »
Should have known we were all going to disagree! Seems like pool is worse than poker for standardised rules.
Quote from: M3boy on April 08, 2007, 02:18:08 AM
King, seems 2 shots DO carry over still.
I can remember when the "legal shot" came in, ie where you had to either pot a ball, or make a ball strike a cushion after hitting your object ball - GREAT rule and I am glad it still applies.
Stopped all that "tap up" behind your ball shit.
WHAT NOW???!!!
As an ex snooker player I love laying the odd crafty snooker on peeps. Now you're saying it's illegal. TBH it's prob not too bad a rule as open attacking games are always preferable to defensive games in pool.
I like the idea if you pot the black off the break you win the frame. It happens so rarely that it's jsut a laugh rule really!
Sorry but you can quote all the rules you like at me but you start coughing shit like "coughcoughmisscough" as I'm taking my shot and there's no way Im getting you a pint. So rule 6 HAS to stay im afraid!
Thanks for the comments and links lads...
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April 08, 2007, 08:26:33 AM »
We always played 2 shots don't carry and 1 shot on the black. Played a lot of pool back in the day. Maybe we should have a wee pool tourney at the blonde bash
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