Missing Madeleine

[kinboshi]

It does make me laugh:

The Daily Mail right a piece appalled at the Portuguese media's smearing of the McCann's, while the London Evening Standard, published by the same company, runs a headline that effectively says they are guilty.

Also the daily mail runs with a front-page style article about the subject knowing that if it's wrong they can say they were quoting another paper - and if they're right, they'll claim the exclusive over here.

[bobby1]

The most important message to come from this scenario is: just how full of BS are the british media


To be honest that is the most sensible thing on the thread, the supposed evidence points to no outside involvement, the DNA stuff points to possible invovlment by the parents, nobody outside the family are real suspects and the only people that are still seriously talking about the girl still being alive are the family..........as Sherlock used to say'when you have eliminated the impossible, you are left with the probable and however unlikey its seems the probable is usually the answer'

The media from day one have followed a terrible story and painted it in such a way that even now there is a lot of 'evidence' to the contrary they are still covering it the same way. If they had arrested someone else that has this evidence against them they would have hung drawn and quatered them by now but coz the people they have painted as victims might now be guilty they refuse to acknowledge this fully.

and one other thing, does anyone know if these same papers are paying the parents for their seemingly once a week centrespreads???

[AdamM]

A straw-poll that was taken here says that 8 out of 10 blokes would.

But most also agreed that it was probably not the best time to ask her out.

post of the thread

[MANTIS01]

My views on this subject have not intentionally been controversial. If anyone would care to re-read all my posts they will find that I never point an accusational finger at people or the decisions/mistakes they make in life. I do get particularly frustrated by the judgemental attitude of other people though. Usually I find judgement manifests itself from results not actions and I find this inconsistent. I never judge because I cannot say with 100% conviction that I wouldn't behave in the same manner on any given day.

I read a thread recently where a member drove their car down the motorway whilst tired. This resulted in a crash. By the grace of god nobody was injured. So because of fortune and fortune alone this person could walk away from that mistake breathing a huge sigh of relief. It can be put down as a bit of an "oops" moment, can be learnt from, and life carries on as before. The reaction from other members was kind of...you silly sausage. But what if that mistake resulted in the death of a child? Does our view now alter? And if it does are we not just chastising a person because of their own particular fortune on any given day?

Every one of us are going to go through life making mistakes that could potentially have serious consequences. The vast majority of us are going to be fortunate, realise a mistake has been made, and be able to move on enjoying life as before. The unlucky few will not have that luxury. One mistake will mean that their lives will be blighted forever with the burden of the consequences. That is just how the dice fell. And I for one will not be ready to rub salt into their wounds. People are fallible....it's what makes them human.

[Claw75]

very good post Mantis.

[Graham C]

Quite agree.  I'm a bit surprised that people are saying that they should be prosecuted etc for leaving their children alone.  Yeah sure, it's a bad thing to do, we know that, but they've had their daughter taken, probably murdered, the finer details of the whens, ifs and whys can be saved for now.   

I don't agree with a lot that the parents have done either, but I can't wish them anything but hope that their little girl is found.

[technolog]

Wonderful post, well done.

[AdamM]

My views on this subject have not intentionally been controversial. If anyone would care to re-read all my posts they will find that I never point an accusational finger at people or the decisions/mistakes they make in life. I do get particularly frustrated by the judgemental attitude of other people though. Usually I find judgement manifests itself from results not actions and I find this inconsistent. I never judge because I cannot say with 100% conviction that I wouldn't behave in the same manner on any given day.

I read a thread recently where a member drove their car down the motorway whilst tired. This resulted in a crash. By the grace of god nobody was injured. So because of fortune and fortune alone this person could walk away from that mistake breathing a huge sigh of relief. It can be put down as a bit of an "oops" moment, can be learnt from, and life carries on as before. The reaction from other members was kind of...you silly sausage. But what if that mistake resulted in the death of a child? Does our view now alter? And if it does are we not just chastising a person because of their own particular fortune on any given day?

Every one of us are going to go through life making mistakes that could potentially have serious consequences. The vast majority of us are going to be fortunate, realise a mistake has been made, and be able to move on enjoying life as before. The unlucky few will not have that luxury. One mistake will mean that their lives will be blighted forever with the burden of the consequences. That is just how the dice fell. And I for one will not be ready to rub salt into their wounds. People are fallible....it's what makes them human.

now THATS the post of the thread

[kinboshi]

Damn him and his incisive posts...pesky kids.

[celtic]

what was good about it?

[turny]

My views on this subject have not intentionally been controversial. If anyone would care to re-read all my posts they will find that I never point an accusational finger at people or the decisions/mistakes they make in life. I do get particularly frustrated by the judgemental attitude of other people though. Usually I find judgement manifests itself from results not actions and I find this inconsistent. I never judge because I cannot say with 100% conviction that I wouldn't behave in the same manner on any given day.

I read a thread recently where a member drove their car down the motorway whilst tired. This resulted in a crash. By the grace of god nobody was injured. So because of fortune and fortune alone this person could walk away from that mistake breathing a huge sigh of relief. It can be put down as a bit of an "oops" moment, can be learnt from, and life carries on as before. The reaction from other members was kind of...you silly sausage. But what if that mistake resulted in the death of a child? Does our view now alter? And if it does are we not just chastising a person because of their own particular fortune on any given day?

Every one of us are going to go through life making mistakes that could potentially have serious consequences. The vast majority of us are going to be fortunate, realise a mistake has been made, and be able to move on enjoying life as before. The unlucky few will not have that luxury. One mistake will mean that their lives will be blighted forever with the burden of the consequences. That is just how the dice fell. And I for one will not be ready to rub salt into their wounds. People are fallible....it's what makes them human.

now THATS the post of the thread

agree with adam(prob first time everlol)

a great post

[boldie]

Kate McCann ... I would.


(the above is a sexist, tasteless post by me, and does not represent the feelings and thoughts of the moderating team in any way .... although they probably would too , just dont want to admit it)

Kate McCann...you did?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=481168&in_page_id=1811

The most important message to come from this scenario is: just how full of BS are the british media.
Followed by: just how scared you would be to get on the wrong side of the portuguese police. "We would like to offer you a deal if you confess to the killing" "No". "Ok, you're free to go. Where's the car, that crucial piece of evidence?" "We're holding on to it" "Ok then. Obrigado".

"big bunch of hair found"..and that turned quickly to "mystery evidence" (on the same page!)

also "Portuguese sources believe this request to be either a search warrant or an order to seize an "object". yes that's kindoff what happens when you apply for a search warrant, you're LOOKING FOR STUFF!

and this, ladies and gentlemen is why I don't like the British media...I would love to say the Daily Mail is the worst when reporting on this case but that's not even true all the British media (including BBC24 and Sky news) are just soo awful it's unreal.

[boldie]

oh Celtic and Matt...I'd better be getting a pm with that joke in it!

Ps KateMccann, I definetly wouldn't..she looks like a skinny bloodhound for crying out loud. She should really take a bit more care of herself, what they don't sell Oil of Olay or some sort of anti wrinkle cream in Portugal?

[boldie]

Thought it was also rather strange that noone seems to think it's a nogo to use the money from the "Maddie fund" to hire expensive lawyers to fight the MCCans extradition charges should it ever come to that If I had donated to it (which I quite obviously didn't (I'll donate my money directly to a charity that can do some good and not to some hyped up news story fund), I also didn't buy one of them armbands (as..well I'm not a girl) it would somehow seem inappropriate to me that the money would be used to stage a defense of the parents.

[The_nun]

Ps KateMccann, I definetly wouldn't..she looks like a skinny bloodhound for crying out loud. She should really take a bit more care of herself, what they don't sell Oil of Olay or some sort of anti wrinkle cream in Portugal?

Not wished to post on this thread but after reading this post it made me feel sick. I do not know the truth of what went on over there and not one of us on here do either, including you Boldie. I never like to speculate or get involved in something that I have no hard evidence on.I hope to goodness these parents are totaly innocent and whomever is proven guilty gets all that they deserve,  but that is not for me to judge.
That must be one of the sickest posts I have read, the woman must is going through shear hell for Gods sake, , she really won't give a flying fk what she looks like. SICK MAN.