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« Reply #10905 on: September 12, 2017, 05:37:56 PM »

im wondering if any of our best starting back 5 could make the team for any other team in the top 6


Mignolet   
Clyne
Moreno
Matip
Lovern

How about

Klavan
TNT
gomez
Robertson

So where would you rank each player for their position against the top 6

Ill start with saying Mignolet is the 6th best keeper


I think Matip would get in the Arsenal back five, he's certainly better than Monreal as a CB, and Koscielny (left footed) would take that spot and Matip would slot in at the centre. Matip vs Otamendi is probably a push. I also think Milner would probably get decent game time for Mourinho at LB, especially in the tougher games. A team player who always gives 100% and rarely makes mistakes. Just what he'd want when parking the bus.
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« Reply #10906 on: September 12, 2017, 06:36:33 PM »

im wondering if any of our best starting back 5 could make the team for any other team in the top 6


Mignolet   
Clyne
Moreno
Matip
Lovern

How about

Klavan
TNT
gomez
Robertson

So where would you rank each player for their position against the top 6

Ill start with saying Mignolet is the 6th best keeper


I think Matip would get in the Arsenal back five, he's certainly better than Monreal as a CB, and Koscielny (left footed) would take that spot and Matip would slot in at the centre. Matip vs Otamendi is probably a push. I also think Milner would probably get decent game time for Mourinho at LB, especially in the tougher games. A team player who always gives 100% and rarely makes mistakes. Just what he'd want when parking the bus.

Koscielny is right-footed although he often plays/played on the left of two CD's.
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« Reply #10907 on: September 13, 2017, 10:11:54 AM »

Liverpool’s Biggest Defensive Weakness Is Their Manager

https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/11/16285902/liverpool-jurgen-klopp-defense-virgil-dan-dijk
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« Reply #10908 on: September 13, 2017, 07:36:38 PM »

Coutinho on the bench tonight. Be interesting to see how the crowd react if he comes on.

Really hoping for a good performance from Liverpool tonight, and have had a modest investment on them winning.

Should be a great atmo tonight - the fans have waited a long time for this.
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« Reply #10909 on: September 13, 2017, 07:48:06 PM »

Midweek European football at anfield is special, and they are great to watch again.

Looking forward to tonight
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« Reply #10910 on: September 13, 2017, 07:52:00 PM »


Ugh.

My bokking skills remain intact.

Still, at least it is early, plenty of time to recover if they are good enough.
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« Reply #10911 on: September 13, 2017, 10:12:55 PM »


Ugh.

My bokking skills remain intact.

Still, at least it is early, plenty of time to recover if they are good enough.

Indeed.
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« Reply #10912 on: September 26, 2017, 08:52:59 PM »


Say what you like about Liverpool, and Klopp, but they are never boring to watch, especially when Mane, Salah, Firmino & Coutinho are all playing.

Good game this, and 'Pool ought to go on and win it.
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« Reply #10913 on: September 27, 2017, 09:49:19 AM »


Well I got that wrong. Again.

How frustrating was that? Can't blame the defence this time, nor the lack of chances. Just seemed to be one of those nights when chance after chance somehow missed.

Fun watch though, most enjoyable.
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« Reply #10914 on: September 27, 2017, 11:16:27 AM »

i saw Liverpool beat Leicester at the weekend. fun game, but for the neutral more than me

i was highly impressed with Matip. huge guy, good with his feet and quick too

On Mignolet, decent shot stopper but i thought he lacked presence,didn't command the area or his back four. bit unlucky to concede the penalty but thats coincidental

what do you make of Klopp's goalkeeper strategy? one in one week,another the next and frankly neither are quite good enough?

why weren't you in the market for a Pickford, someone who could stand there for 10 years plus and do the job rather than this half hearted support for the current guys?
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« Reply #10915 on: September 27, 2017, 11:53:51 AM »

i saw Liverpool beat Leicester at the weekend. fun game, but for the neutral more than me

i was highly impressed with Matip. huge guy, good with his feet and quick too

On Mignolet, decent shot stopper but i thought he lacked presence,didn't command the area or his back four. bit unlucky to concede the penalty but thats coincidental

what do you make of Klopp's goalkeeper strategy? one in one week,another the next and frankly neither are quite good enough?

why weren't you in the market for a Pickford, someone who could stand there for 10 years plus and do the job rather than this half hearted support for the current guys?

It's maddening Tighty. Lovren, Klavan, Mignolet, Karius, Moreno all just not good enough. Same problems year after year, not addressed. TAA and Gomes obviously aren't there yet but have young talent, but need better quality around them to develop properly. Moreno impoved loads since last year but still isn't top 6 material when u compare him with other LBs or LWBs like Alonso, Kolasinac, Rose (even Davies) Danilo, Mendy. Matip is good but gets exposed without a proper CB partner.

It's not like there's nobody out there. I know we don't have the pull of the Manchester teams but off the top of my head all of these were signed this summer and we weren't even linked to any of these.

Man Utd who's defence didn't even need improving got Lindelof
Man City got Mendy, Walker and Danilo
Chelsea got Rudiger, Christensen, Zappacosta (again defence didn't even need much improvement)
Spurs lost Walker but got Aurier and Davidson Sanchez
Arsenal got Kolasinac

Why couldn't we be in the fight to get a single one of those? Seems like we were all in on VVD and no plan b.

RE GK - All of those 5 bar city had top class goalkeepers already. Klopp didn't want Hart, OK fair enough, but still think he'd be an improvement on what we have. Like you say, why not get Pickford?

If Klopp were any other manager the media would want his throat. I'm a big Klopp fan and don't want him fired or anything but it's infuriating that nothing is done when the problems are so obvious.

That post a few weeks ago summed it up about which of the backline would get in any of the other top 6 teams. NONE.

Our attack will keep us in the top 6 but we will never challenge for anything if we don't improve at the back and I think that means signing a GK, a CB at the very least and maybe a new defensive coach too. Because when a ball is swung in from a corner or free kick my heart is in my mouth and we look like a bunch of school boys trying to deal with it.
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« Reply #10916 on: September 27, 2017, 07:44:40 PM »

i saw Liverpool beat Leicester at the weekend. fun game, but for the neutral more than me

i was highly impressed with Matip. huge guy, good with his feet and quick too

On Mignolet, decent shot stopper but i thought he lacked presence,didn't command the area or his back four. bit unlucky to concede the penalty but thats coincidental

what do you make of Klopp's goalkeeper strategy? one in one week,another the next and frankly neither are quite good enough?

why weren't you in the market for a Pickford, someone who could stand there for 10 years plus and do the job rather than this half hearted support for the current guys?

Klopp,for all his attacking intentions is a bit of a one trick pony and pretty clueless about defending in the Premier league imo. Zonal marking doesn't work, which is partly why Liverpool are so shit at set pieces.

Goalkeeper situation has been strange since he got there. Brought Ward back from loan at Aberdeen but rarely played him. Brought Karius who looks awful every time he is on the pitch and instills no confidence in the defence.
Mignolet actually started pretty ell this season until Klopp 'rested' him, has looked like a dead man walking ever since. If he didn't want to play ward this year he should have left him on loan at Huddersfield gaining premier league experience.
Don't know what he sees in Moreno, the guy can't defend and his crossing and shooting is also poor, Robertson looks a hell of a lot better.

Seems obsessed with buying attacking midfielders, when we need a proper striker. Conversion rate of chances is ridiculously poor.
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« Reply #10917 on: September 30, 2017, 08:19:06 PM »

 have clear weaknesses they do not appear to have addressed
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« Reply #10918 on: October 01, 2017, 09:09:36 AM »

Klopp's Pressing Problem - Northcroft in the Sunday Times but on his facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/jonathannorthcroftjournalist/
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« Reply #10919 on: October 13, 2017, 09:39:46 AM »

Jürgen Klopp two years on – how much progress has been made?

Liverpool are a better side than they were at the end of Brendan Rodgers’ reign but a rampant Manchester United visit Anfield on Saturday and will be 10 points ahead of their rivals if they win


https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/12/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-how-much-progress-manchester-united?CMP=share_btn_tw
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