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« on: July 31, 2007, 02:31:31 AM » |
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Ive just watched the EPT coverage from Deauville.
I have two questions.
How does Colin Murray get the commentator job?
Why would they put out this superb series with clear error strewn commentaries.
In the biggest pot in the comp Murray on a board of
9 j q k
says that ace jack has str8, top pair and flush possibilities to win the hand when the other guy has
q 10
he even intimated that the king on the turn wasn't a good card for the q 10 hand. To be honest his commentary is more like an attempt to ridicule everyone else in the comms box instead of making informed poker comment and it lets the whole show down.
Anyone agree/disagree?
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 02:34:33 AM » |
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Maybe its all a hustle to challenge big name pro's ''hu for rollz''?
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 06:50:13 AM » |
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Ive just watched the EPT coverage from Deauville.
I have two questions.
How does Colin Murray get the commentator job?
Why would they put out this superb series with clear error strewn commentaries.
In the biggest pot in the comp Murray on a board of
9 j q k
says that ace jack has str8, top pair and flush possibilities to win the hand when the other guy has
q 10
he even intimated that the king on the turn wasn't a good card for the q 10 hand. To be honest his commentary is more like an attempt to ridicule everyone else in the comms box instead of making informed poker comment and it lets the whole show down.
Anyone agree/disagree?
Murray wasn't on as much in the EPT 3 shows on Challenge, James Hartigan (sp) was on a few shows and at least he seems to know basic hand reading. Hopefully Season 4 will see Colin disappear back to compering inane pop shows. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 06:59:47 AM » |
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Lee Jones' commentary in season 3 was a bad imo. They should just get Raymer to do it all the time. Another commentator is asked to define EV in some poker magazine that I saw. He gets it wrong (or possibly the mag misquoted him or something???) Maybe people should be asked to do the Donkey Test before being allowed to speak authoritatively in the poker media. http://www.donkeytest.com/ |
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 07:44:43 AM » |
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I agree mind numbinglly boring TV. If the where more poker programmes like "beyond the felt" which at least is watchable then maybe they would get more viewers.Poker shows in TV are generally dire though I think the format for the WSOP coverage is watchable and well presented.
Yup, LNP started it all off and the WPT and WSOP are also very well put together programs, so much so that you dont mind watching the occasional repeat. I hope that they begin to start showing some of the WSOP programs again on challenge tv soon as i missed a few of them first time round and wouldnt mind watching them again. I dont mind watching other programs, some of the ones being shown on sky sports are alright and the EPT ones are just about watchable so long as you turn the volume down (no offence aimed at John Duthie, i dont mind listening to him!!). Apart from that the rest just all get repeated too much or arent upto standard. I've said it before and i'll say it again!! There's only one program on gambling worth watching and thats Poker425 on channel 425 every night at 11pm!! (No Andrew T they still haven't arrived  ) |
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 08:20:19 AM » |
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Lee Jones' commentary in season 3 was a bad imo. They should just get Raymer to do it all the time. Another commentator is asked to define EV in some poker magazine that I saw. He gets it wrong (or possibly the mag misquoted him or something???) Maybe people should be asked to do the Donkey Test before being allowed to speak authoritatively in the poker media. http://www.donkeytest.com/119 143 in tournaments... somehow. |
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Robert HM
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 08:22:13 AM » |
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I find Murray grates on my nerves. He does come out with total bull sometimes and his insults of the players are demeaning. On a recent episode he was deriding a player for having patches on their clothing as if to say they were wearing something from a charity shop. He fails to point out that they are forced to put masking tape over sponsors logos if they are not PStars. His analysis falls short of what is required of the program and the series is devalued by his input.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 10:00:51 AM » |
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Being a massive Liverpool fan is his only true quality...
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KingPoker
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 12:36:33 PM » |
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ffs i was halfway through a detailed example of why i think murray has gone down hill in my opinion and i pressed cntrl deletebaccidently or did summat anyway and the bloody thing disappeared.
He cant read hands, plays, he cant even make a connection with what people hold and how that applies to the community cards. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt as he was obviously fairly new to the game but after 3years/ seasons of commentating he really should have come on quite a bit by now considering all he gets to do is study pro poker players hands and sit next to barny, duthie, jones and raymer.
Theres no hope for the biy im afraid, get rid of him.
p.s. I really did enjoy Lee Jones on there as his analysis of what players were thinking and just about to do was normally spot on.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2007, 02:01:01 PM » |
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Being a massive Liverpool fan is his only true quality...
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2007, 01:36:37 PM » |
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Lee Jones' commentary in season 3 was a bad imo. They should just get Raymer to do it all the time. Another commentator is asked to define EV in some poker magazine that I saw. He gets it wrong (or possibly the mag misquoted him or something???) Maybe people should be asked to do the Donkey Test before being allowed to speak authoritatively in the poker media. http://www.donkeytest.com/Murray is awful, but Lee Jones was also surprisingly poor. He was wooden rather than content poor mind, so maybe once he relaxes in front of the camera he'll be fine. Nothing will make Murray fine. [/quote] |
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2007, 01:59:16 PM » |
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I like the fact that he takes the piss out of the players and stuff. Pros and their hangers-on/leeches can get so sanctimonius about themselves sometimes.
All the EPT ones I've seen him on, he's been OK. He aint as bad as that donkey on Sky Poker.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2007, 02:23:22 PM » |
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I like the fact that he takes the piss out of the players and stuff. Pros and their hangers-on/leeches can get so sanctimonius about themselves sometimes.
All the EPT ones I've seen him on, he's been OK. He aint as bad as that donkey on Sky Poker.
Nice troll - I can't wait to see the colour of your tongue if tipping starts in UK casinos. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2007, 07:57:11 PM » |
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He can be quite funny when he starts ripping people. Can't remember what EPT it was but there was a Scando in shades & a chainmail vest that Murray ripped to shreds (and rightly so). Gabe Kaplan's slagging of Bob Stupak on "HSP"was quality as well.
I'd rather listen to Murray than that Brian Molicka of "Cash Poker" or Norman Chad - The King of Tumbleweed.
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dealerFROMhell
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2007, 08:02:28 PM » |
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I like the fact that he takes the piss out of the players and stuff. Pros and their hangers-on/leeches can get so sanctimonius about themselves sometimes.
All the EPT ones I've seen him on, he's been OK. He aint as bad as that donkey on Sky Poker.
Nice troll - I can't wait to see the colour of your tongue if tipping starts in UK casinos. There's no way in hell the operators will let it be allowed. And quite frankly, very few dealers want to work for tips. Nice try though. |
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