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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 11:54:47 AM »

This is my biggest gripe with online poker.

The cards are "constantly" shuffled - ie there are lots of factors that determine what the next card will be.


Why do you consider that this is a problem?

Surely, as long as noone knows the card sequence, and it is random, it doesn't matter how it is arrived at.

Exactly, why worry about what you can't change...

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 12:10:08 PM »

This is my biggest gripe with online poker.

The cards are "constantly" shuffled - ie there are lots of factors that determine what the next card will be.


Why do you consider that this is a problem?

Surely, as long as noone knows the card sequence, and it is random, it doesn't matter how it is arrived at.

Yes it is a problem, psycologically you KNOW that the length of time taken can alter the next card out. So if you call quickly you get one card, and if you take a bit of time you get a different card, if you take even longer then it is a different card altogeather.

So you are always left wondering "what if i took longer/shorter"
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 12:14:21 PM »

If you were sitting at a live game and the river card was ready to be exposed, but because your opponent took so long in calling, a different river card was exposed - giving him his 2 outer say

How would you feel then?
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 12:22:49 PM »

If you were sitting at a live game and the river card was ready to be exposed, but because your opponent took so long in calling, a different river card was exposed - giving him his 2 outer say

How would you feel then?

 
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 12:40:42 PM »

This is my biggest gripe with online poker.

The cards are "constantly" shuffled - ie there are lots of factors that determine what the next card will be.


Why do you consider that this is a problem?

Surely, as long as noone knows the card sequence, and it is random, it doesn't matter how it is arrived at.

Yes it is a problem, psycologically you KNOW that the length of time taken can alter the next card out. So if you call quickly you get one card, and if you take a bit of time you get a different card, if you take even longer then it is a different card altogeather.

So you are always left wondering "what if i took longer/shorter"

But because you cant control how long your opponents take to make the decision you are never the sole factor in which card is revealed. Therefore all the "what if" is irrelevant - just play it as you see it.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 12:45:50 PM »

They might miss their two-outer that they would have hit if you'd acted 0.43 seconds quicker.  So it works both ways. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 12:47:10 PM »

Oh I know.

Its just I would prefer it if it was a pre determined deck - although I know why it isnt
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 01:45:45 PM »

This is also the main gripe I have with online poker.  I tried doing this in a home game once and everyone got pissed off that I was continuously shuffling the deck between as they took there time to act - they said it was cheating - lol!  It worked for me i flopped quads once doing it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 06:56:39 PM »

Aslong as you know that is the rule then its fine. Its not like its hidden. And atl east its safe from messing with
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 08:39:01 PM »

As you have no control anyway, shuffling them constantly is the same to you as if they were shuffled once. Tbh I wouldn't even care if they did it live as long as I could trust the shuffler Wink.
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