Ruling ?

[Ecosse]

Can anyone put me right here ?

10 handed tourney at local club, i'm head's up and go all in after the river with board reading jj8jk.

Opponent does not call my bet but turns over his cards showing a K.

Has he mucked ?

Dougie.

[Newmanseye]

yes, if he has exposed them and not said call he has mucked his hand, exposing your cards makes em dead as far as i know.

[AndrewT]

If the dealer didn't him say call and he moved no chips forward then he's mucked.

Of course, he could have put you on the case Jack and was showing what a great fold he was making.

[77dave]

If his card is exposed by accident at any point during the hand  his cards are live but he is held to check call or fold for the rest of the hand

if it is decided that he exposed the card on purpose then his hand is dead at that point

[Ecosse]

If the dealer didn't him say call and he moved no chips forward then he's mucked.

Of course, he could have put you on the case Jack and was showing what a great fold he was making.

This is exactly what happened. I had QQ. Ended up splitting the pot after heated debate.

Dougie.

[Claw75]

If the dealer didn't him say call and he moved no chips forward then he's mucked.

Of course, he could have put you on the case Jack and was showing what a great fold he was making.

This is exactly what happened. I had QQ. Ended up splitting the pot after heated debate.

Dougie.

I don't understand why the pot was split - either his cards were live and he won, or his cards were dead and you won (which would be correct in this situation).  Why did you show your QQ, and how on earth was it decided that the pot should be split?

[Ecosse]

If the dealer didn't him say call and he moved no chips forward then he's mucked.

Of course, he could have put you on the case Jack and was showing what a great fold he was making.

This is exactly what happened. I had QQ. Ended up splitting the pot after heated debate.

Dougie.

I don't understand why the pot was split - either his cards were live and he won, or his cards were dead and you won (which would be correct in this situation).  Why did you show your QQ, and how on earth was it decided that the pot should be split?

Basically to avoid a scrap. I knew he was in the wrong and put me on the case jack.

Local social club and no one has that much experience. Opponent knew he was folding and I really believe he was just angle shooting.

Dougie.

[doubleup]

Although there are bizarre rules all over the place, the ruling in reputable cardrooms would be that his hand is not dead but he may be warned or penalised.

I cannot understand how the pot ended up being split, he either called or folded.  Did you think he called and expose your hand?  If so welcome to the world of angle-shooting (although it may just have been stupidity) - don't show your hand until you are sure you have been called.  

[doubleup]

he put me on the case jack.

lol what a fish

[77dave]

Although there are bizarre rules all over the place, the ruling in reputable cardrooms would be that his hand is not dead but he may be warned or penalised.

I cannot understand how the pot ended up being split, he either called or folded.  Did you think he called and expose your hand?  If so welcome to the world of angle-shooting (although it may just have been stupidity) - don't show your hand until you are sure you have been called.  

His hand is dead if he shows his cards        plus what warning or penalty do you think he should get or have you ever seen given in a cardroom for exposing your cards

[AndrewT]

To be honest, in informal social games, the overriding thing which determines rulings is 'which decision is least likely to result in a fight'.

[doubleup]

Although there are bizarre rules all over the place, the ruling in reputable cardrooms would be that his hand is not dead but he may be warned or penalised.

I cannot understand how the pot ended up being split, he either called or folded.  Did you think he called and expose your hand?  If so welcome to the world of angle-shooting (although it may just have been stupidity) - don't show your hand until you are sure you have been called.  

His hand is dead if he shows his cards        plus what warning or penalty do you think he should get or have you ever seen given in a cardroom for exposing your cards

tda rule 31

Exposing Cards- A player who exposes his cards with action pending may incur a penalty, but will not have a dead hand. The penalty will begin at the end of the hand.

[bolt pp]

lol ffs how the f**k is it ever a split?

and LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL at the fold, what was his other card, another king?

I guess now we know where mystery721 plays he's live poker!

[77dave]

Although there are bizarre rules all over the place, the ruling in reputable cardrooms would be that his hand is not dead but he may be warned or penalised.

I cannot understand how the pot ended up being split, he either called or folded.  Did you think he called and expose your hand?  If so welcome to the world of angle-shooting (although it may just have been stupidity) - don't show your hand until you are sure you have been called.  

His hand is dead if he shows his cards        plus what warning or penalty do you think he should get or have you ever seen given in a cardroom for exposing your cards

tda rule 31

Exposing Cards- A player who exposes his cards with action pending may incur a penalty, but will not have a dead hand. The penalty will begin at the end of the hand.

cash games and tournys have differnet rules      what punishment are you going to enforce in the next hand of a cash game.  10 min penalty big deal.

[doubleup]

cash games and tournys have differnet rules      what punishment are you going to enforce in the next hand of a cash game.  10 min penalty big deal.

Read the original post.  Particularly the bit saying "10 handed tourney at local club".