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Question: POKER ROOMS SHOULD BE NON SMOKING
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« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2005, 04:55:44 PM »

Aiming for 1 smoking night a week to trial the concept is an excellent idea. I would be very confident that once established it would be hugely oversubscribed and there would be huge pressure on the casino to make more and more evenings non-smoking.
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« Reply #151 on: December 12, 2005, 06:32:52 PM »

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A turbo diesel 2 litre engine was started and left idling for 30 minutes in the garage, with the doors closed, after which the doors were left open for four hours. The car was fuelled with low sulphur fuel.

Three filter cigarettes were then lit up sequentially, and left smouldering for a further 30 minutes. The nicotine and tar content of each cigarette was 1 mg and 11.2 mg, respectively.

A portable analyser took readings every two minutes during the experiments.

Combined particulate levels in the first hour after the engine had been started measured 88 ug/m3. Those recorded in the first hour after the cigarettes had been lit measured 830 ug/m3: 10 times greater.

The diesel engine exhaust doubled the particulate matter levels found outdoors at its peak; the environmental tobacco smoke particulate matter reached levels 15 times those measured outdoors.

[Particulate matter from tobacco versus diesel car exhaust: an educational perspective Tobacco Control 2004; 13: 219-21]

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« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2005, 06:43:56 PM »

Right then...thats made my mind up.

I vote to ban diesel engines from all card rooms!!!

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« Reply #153 on: December 12, 2005, 06:51:50 PM »

For every one of those there's one contradiction.
It's all muddled, nobody knows the truth
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« Reply #154 on: December 12, 2005, 07:10:35 PM »


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« Reply #155 on: December 12, 2005, 07:15:41 PM »

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« Reply #156 on: December 12, 2005, 08:05:14 PM »

I just doubt the truth is out there in my lifetime (though smoking, manufacturing cigarettes and selling them will all be illegal i'm sure).
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« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2005, 03:05:54 PM »

Personally I'm in favour of a smoking ban in the entire casino!

After a week spent playing at Luton it was very noticeable how my clothes still stunk of cigarettes every night despite playing in a non-smoking cardroom.  I'm not particularly thrilled about my lungs being exposed to that too often.

Its not a major issue for me (I put it down as an occupational hazard of playing as 90% of the players seem to be smokers).  However, given the choice, that's where my vote would be.

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« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2005, 05:02:45 PM »

Hello,

I'd started a reply to this to say that I was indifferent, giving my reasoning etc... but the more I read it the more I realised that the only sensible option is for a complete ban in public places, including card rooms.  I have swayed back and forth on this issue, I am a current smoker who has quit several times and failed each time, I have been running an ex-smokers website for years and still haven't managed to quit.

The poll itself adds nothing for me, it was always going to be around 70/30, non-smokers v smokers with a few in between, similar to the consulation results that were reached by the Scottish Executive.  Banning it because of the majority decision for me isn't the issue.  Banning in as a public health issue is my reason for supporting it.

On an aside, the reason they banned smoking in airlines wasn't for health/safety reasons, but more to do with reducing the amount of fuel required as they could reduce the pressure on the aircon/cabin pressure systems.

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Eoan

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