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77dave
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CardRoom Manager Required
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January 07, 2008, 02:01:30 PM »
Its been 3 weeks now since Luton lost its last manager and as far as i known there isnt a new one on the horizon.
Simon Trumper at DTD and Adam Lawer from Southend have both been recently receiving rave reviews so what is it that Luton needs to find to get it to the standard that it needs to be at?
Does anybody know anyone who would be interested in applying?
A bet recently took place between Tikay and Slick Kid about the standards at Luton. 90% of the problems there can be sorted with someone with the right drive and energy.
So what makes your cardroom well run or what would you change about it to make it better
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January 07, 2008, 02:11:40 PM »
Someone with a calming presence and a fair person who understands the game and has a passion for it. That's all I ask for from a card room manager...not too many of them around though.
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January 07, 2008, 02:12:18 PM »
keep your hands off John Taylor
he is Aberdeen's and i hope we keep him
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January 07, 2008, 02:14:52 PM »
There is something afoot at Luton regarding a new person
as to the question
consistent, firm and fair rulings
understanding of the game to provide good tournament schedules, reasonable strucutres and good range of cash games
The stature to stand up to any corporate issues that would prevent him offering the above
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Quote from: TightEnd on January 07, 2008, 02:14:52 PM
There is something afoot at Luton regarding a new person
as to the question
consistent, firm and fair rulings
understanding of the game to provide good tournament schedules, reasonable strucutres and good range of cash games
The stature to stand up to any corporate issues that would prevent him offering the above
add passion to above
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January 07, 2008, 02:29:55 PM »
Is knowledge of the rules as important as passion and energy for the job
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Quote from: 77dave on January 07, 2008, 02:29:55 PM
Is knowledge of the rules as important as passion and energy for the job
probably not
for Luton, which needs a leader of the room with real drive, definitely not
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The real problem for any new sup at Luton will be Carmel, she is anice lady but she can't keep her nose out, you give a ruling and she overrules you. This has a very bad effect of the morale of whoever is running the room.
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Quote from: phatomch on January 07, 2008, 02:33:58 PM
The real problem for any new sup at Luton will be Carmel, she is anice lady but she can't keep her nose out, you give a ruling and she overrules you. This has a very bad effect of the morale of whoever is running the room.
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Quote from: 77dave on January 07, 2008, 02:29:55 PM
Is knowledge of the rules as important as passion and energy for the job
You can teach someone with passion and energy the rules far quicker than you can generate energy in someone who knows the rules but cant be bothered.
I would think that the person definitely needs empowerment; to be allowed to introduce (within reason) what they want, based on demand, but also the accountability to stand and fall by how well they do. With £ being the measure, it must be possible to monitor 'success' from the cardroom? In return they should be properly rewarded for doing whatever they do towards selling out the cardroom every night and attracting poker punters in the door for table games (although claiming a reward for their collective table losses might be a bit contentious..)
I don't know how much ££ the role attracts (over and above say an experienced inspector in the pit) but it should command a premium and in return they should be expected to perform higher than turning up, working and going home 5 times a week.
Edit: I should add that isn't a swipe at anyone past or present, it's just that it is easier to switch off and on each shift watching blackjack than it is managing the poker room, which you must have to devote far more towards, therefore deserving better reward.
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A Grosvenor Cardroom Supervisor gets paid £17,000 a year. To me this is not enough for the trouble they get put through in the name of poker, it is only a little bit more each month than a inspector with alot more work and responsability.
That is why apart from the truly dedicated staff such as Zac at walsall and Ian at Bolton you find that good sup's are few and far between.
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Quote from: phatomch on January 07, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
A Grosvenor Cardroom Supervisor gets paid £17,000 a year.
yikes.
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January 07, 2008, 04:03:10 PM »
17k down sarf wow, unsocial hours and grief for that lol.
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Quote from: phatomch on January 07, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
A Grosvenor Cardroom Supervisor gets paid £17,000 a year. To me this is not enough for the trouble they get put through in the name of poker, it is only a little bit more each month than a inspector with alot more work and responsability.
That is why apart from the truly dedicated staff such as Zac at walsall and Ian at Bolton you find that good sup's are few and far between.
I'll take it. I will need a job when I return!!!!
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Quote from: Acidmouse on January 07, 2008, 04:03:10 PM
17k down sarf wow, unsocial hours and grief for that lol.
Agreed totally
London allowance pays a Sup in the Vic more, but frankly working in Luton you deserve an extra allowance!
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