BLACKPOOL MAIN EVENT - DAY TWO LIVE UPDATE

[tikay]

Maybe we now know why Notts beat Blackpool in a canter in the Inter Casino Challenge. They just play H-U different in these parts?

[edy g]

thank you tikay,great coverage.......gonna have to find something else to do now during the 350k and the quater mill......

[mahound]

great Coverage Tikay, excellent report
Move over jessie May
 

[tikay]

Thanks Ed. Loads of folks like to play the big Sunday Night online comps & keep an eye on the updates, so it's all a bit of an anti-climax.

Good luck in the comps though mate.

[tikay]

Thanks Mahound. But Jesse is different class. HE THE DADDY!

[tikay]

I can now confirm what the "deal" was between the 1st & 2nd. They "saved" 10% of the difference between 1st & 2nd.

[tikay]

Right, I'm outa here. Got a long drive, & two hungry cats waiting for me at home.

Thanks to everyone at Grosvenor Blackpool, what a great bunch they are.

And to everyone who helped with the updates, a big thanks.

[robyong]

Tikay - 24 people left, avg stack 60k, blinds 2-4k, a raise 3 x BB = 20k, a re-raise 60k. On average each you played you were risking 33% your chips call 1 raise - how can you afford to bluff a flop, check raise or bluff the river or play suited connectors with this structure. Hence no play, down to five card crapshoot.  A short stack of 30k - 40k only has one move, skill factor = ZERO.  Surely this does not make good viewing, anyone can say "all - in". I appreciate watching and playing the flop, turn and river and there was no play left for the short/ average stacks (although I was not one of them).

[robyong]

...... I spoke to 4 people who had < 50k after day 1 and there words were "I only have 1 move - all in" - how can this be when the average stach was 58k?

[redsimon]

Tikay - 24 people left, avg stack 60k, blinds 2-4k, a raise 3 x BB = 20k, a re-raise 60k. On average each you played you were risking 33% your chips call 1 raise - how can you afford to bluff a flop, check raise or bluff the river or play suited connectors with this structure. Hence no play, down to five card crapshoot. A short stack of 30k - 40k only has one move, skill factor = ZERO. Surely this does not make good viewing, anyone can say "all - in". I appreciate watching and playing the flop, turn and river and there was no play left for the short/ average stacks (although I was not one of them).

2/4 blinds 3xbb is 12k not 20k though

[ifm]

I think he meant a raise is 12k PLUS the blinds which though not 20k is close enough.................a reraise to 60k?
For me there seems still to be room to play but hey waddaiknow?
I do think the blind cap is a very good thing and this does make for a lot of play in the latter stages.
They do this at walsall though they sort of counteract it by starting late and having an early chipcount.
Ian

[tikay]

Well my comments really applied to the situation when the comp got heads up.

1,390,000 chips in play. Blinds 5k-10k.

I thought we were set for 3 or 4 hours of intriguing heads up play. They played 3 hands, each of them all-in pre-flop with bus tickets.

Am I being critical of them? How can I, as someone else said, "who am I to criticise"? But I'd like to understand why they did it that way. I DO believe that they had not chopped it, just agreed a 10% saver, so that's not the reason.

We blame the structures so often for crapshoot play, but we gotta look at ourselves. The structure was NOT the reason. I am just curious what the reason was, thats all!

[robyong]

On my table everyone was putting in at least 20K when the blinds were 4k, which I agree equates to 4x BB + the 4k call. A re-raise is 3X the bet so the person does not get pot odds to play am arginal hand. There was hardly any flop play, maybe a SB BB pot every now and again. I'm just sayiing that it was a crapshoot and average chips could afford to play 1 pot with 24 players left. For me, skill factor is diluted, I think it was a combination of structure and the players. I only make the point in relation to the hard work that everyone put in the get to the next day, and they could only afford to play 1 pot. Mid you, I had double average and played 2!

[tikay]

We are arguing about different things here Rob.

My point has alays been about when there were 2 players left. The blinds then were 5k-10k, & the average chips were 695,000. That's not a crapshoot by my definition.

But there was NO pre-flop play heads-up, except (3 times) "all-in" - "I call"....

I reckon "No Leaks" may have been nearest the mark - it was the pre-Final Champagne!