Beginning of the end for Rafa...

[The Baron]

Even the most one eyed red must agree that Hiddink gave Rafa a coaching lesson tonight.

Yup, I had a bad feeling we'd go for it too much with the first leg at home. Hiddink got it bang on, especially his roles for Malouda and Kalou. The 5 man midfield totally bossed it.

As good as Chelsea were, and how outplayed we were in some areas, there were also unforced errors everywhere due to our own performance just not being good enough. That was my worst trip home from Anfield ever.

[TheChipPrince]

That was my worst trip home from Anfield ever.

My worst was not actually a defeat, a 0-0 draw against Blackburn in 04/05 about 2 months after the 1-0 defeat against Burnley in FA cup, and about 2 months before the miracle comeback V Milan.  Thats the only occassion I can remember them being booed off at Anfield.  I think a lot of people really doubted Benitez around that time. They were awful, even Carra was copping loads 'trying' to play as an attacking right-back as I think they were down to 10 men.

[kinboshi]

That was my worst trip home from Anfield ever.

My worst was not actually a defeat, a 0-0 draw against Blackburn in 04/05 about 2 months after the 1-0 defeat against Burnley in FA cup, and about 2 months before the miracle comeback V Milan.  Thats the only occassion I can remember them being booed off at Anfield.  I think a lot of people really doubted Benitez around that time. They were awful, even Carra was copping loads 'trying' to play as an attacking right-back as I think they were down to 10 men.

Mine was the 0-0 against Birmingham.  It was shocking.

[The Baron]

The magnitude of the occasion is what makes it my worst. It was SOOOOOOO loud before the game. How could the lads not be pumped as per the previous home ties Vs Chelsea at around this stage.

Yes, they played well, yes, they got their tactics right, yes sometimes you take your hat off and say gg. But the unforced errors all over the park turned it from "bad result" into "shocking night". As good as they were, we just didn't turn up.

[mondatoo]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

[The Baron]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

I know just about every fan will think this about their own club and it's detractors, but I think the bias in the (London based) media regarding Liverpool and it's failings leads to this type of reaction on phone in shows etc. It's been this way since Mourinho left and they have no one else to try to wind up. Prior to this the media was lukewarm to Rafa.

Also the opinions of people apparently in the know like Paul Merson (!) and flat out Liverpool haters like Andy Gray dont help.

You then get people jumping on the squad rotation, zonal marking, "Liverpool have the most expensive squad", and "Rafa is crap" bandwagons without looking at the facts. IMHO these people just don't have a clue (or mostly do have a clue, but only about their own club) and will just always believe what is put in front of them.

[boldie]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

I know just about every fan will think this about their own club and it's detractors, but I think the bias in the (London based) media regarding Liverpool and it's failings leads to this type of reaction on phone in shows etc. It's been this way since Mourinho left and they have no one else to try to wind up. Prior to this the media was lukewarm to Rafa.

Also the opinions of people apparently in the know like Paul Merson (!) and flat out Liverpool haters like Andy Gray dont help.

You then get people jumping on the squad rotation, zonal marking, "Liverpool have the most expensive squad", and "Rafa is crap" bandwagons without looking at the facts. IMHO these people just don't have a clue (or mostly do have a clue, but only about their own club) and will just always believe what is put in front of them.

we do still agree that when Kin is around Liverpool is shit and the US has 52 states though, right?

[kinboshi]

No, the machine said it had 51 states

[boldie]

No, the machine said it had 51 states

oh yeah...crappie machine..doesn't even know there's 52

[david3103]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

I know just about every fan will think this about their own club and it's detractors, but I think the bias in the (London based) media regarding Liverpool and it's failings leads to this type of reaction on phone in shows etc. It's been this way since Mourinho left and they have no one else to try to wind up. Prior to this the media was lukewarm to Rafa.

True

Also the opinions of people apparently in the know like Paul Merson (!) and flat out Liverpool haters like Andy Gray dont help.

You then get people jumping on the squad rotation, zonal marking, "Liverpool have the most expensive squad", and "Rafa is crap" bandwagons without looking at the facts. IMHO these people just don't have a clue (or mostly do have a clue, but only about their own club) and will just always believe what is put in front of them.

Can't let this go unchallenged though - MotD with Hansen and Lawrenson's constant sniping at United and soft playing Liverpool's issues.

eg - the analysis of Mascherano's contribution on Saturday which included a 30yd run and two-footed lunge at a Blackburn defender was glossed over with a "not the bestof tackles". Had that been a player from any other team they would have shown it from every angle available and called for an FA review.

[kinboshi]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

I know just about every fan will think this about their own club and it's detractors, but I think the bias in the (London based) media regarding Liverpool and it's failings leads to this type of reaction on phone in shows etc. It's been this way since Mourinho left and they have no one else to try to wind up. Prior to this the media was lukewarm to Rafa.

True

Also the opinions of people apparently in the know like Paul Merson (!) and flat out Liverpool haters like Andy Gray dont help.

You then get people jumping on the squad rotation, zonal marking, "Liverpool have the most expensive squad", and "Rafa is crap" bandwagons without looking at the facts. IMHO these people just don't have a clue (or mostly do have a clue, but only about their own club) and will just always believe what is put in front of them.

Can't let this go unchallenged though - MotD with Hansen and Lawrenson's constant sniping at United and soft playing Liverpool's issues.

eg - the analysis of Mascherano's contribution on Saturday which included a 30yd run and two-footed lunge at a Blackburn defender was glossed over with a "not the bestof tackles". Had that been a player from any other team they would have shown it from every angle available and called for an FA review.

LOL - please refer to Wayne Rooney and ronaldo.

[david3103]

Surely the people giving there opinion on the game on radio last night were paid to speak such crap,within a 2min taxi ride home one said rafa should do the decent thing and resign lol,another said he's shit manager and hasn't got a clue in europe, eh ? a know it's obviously not the true fans that ring up this crap bur still

I know just about every fan will think this about their own club and it's detractors, but I think the bias in the (London based) media regarding Liverpool and it's failings leads to this type of reaction on phone in shows etc. It's been this way since Mourinho left and they have no one else to try to wind up. Prior to this the media was lukewarm to Rafa.

True

Also the opinions of people apparently in the know like Paul Merson (!) and flat out Liverpool haters like Andy Gray dont help.

You then get people jumping on the squad rotation, zonal marking, "Liverpool have the most expensive squad", and "Rafa is crap" bandwagons without looking at the facts. IMHO these people just don't have a clue (or mostly do have a clue, but only about their own club) and will just always believe what is put in front of them.

Can't let this go unchallenged though - MotD with Hansen and Lawrenson's constant sniping at United and soft playing Liverpool's issues.

eg - the analysis of Mascherano's contribution on Saturday which included a 30yd run and two-footed lunge at a Blackburn defender was glossed over with a "not the bestof tackles". Had that been a player from any other team they would have shown it from every angle available and called for an FA review.

LOL - please refer to Wayne Rooney and ronaldo.

OK - if Rooney or Ronaldo had made that challenge.....

even Liverpool fans must have cringed at Hansen's casual comments on it surely?

[Blatch]

Does anyone think there is more to the Agger contract saga?

[boldie]

even Liverpool fans must have cringed at Hansen's casual comments on it surely?

I think everybody always cringes whenever Hansen makes a comment, no?

[kinboshi]

Does anyone think there is more to the Agger contract saga?

There has been in the past, but from what I'd heard it was all sorted now.