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« on: March 17, 2008, 05:56:39 PM »

From my OPR stats

Avg. Finish
Early 4% (10%)
EM   16% (20%)
Mid. 36% (40%)
ML   29% (20%)
Late 15% (10%)
   
I am trying to work out how I need to change the strategy during a game to gain better results, or at least learn which section of an mtt i should concentrate on. I would describe my MTT play as broadly too tight and hence my high %age ML figure. I get deepish into a mtt and then I go out trying to get a double up to make it to the end.

The figures below are from a variety of winning mtt players, either just stars or stars & ft, to see a comparison.

uk player

Avg. Finish
Early 2% (10%)   Early 3% (10%)
EM    7% (20%)   EM   10% (20%)
Mid. 48% (40%)   Mid. 47% (40%)
ML   30% (20%)   ML   25% (20%)
Late 13% (10%)   Late 15% (10%)
   
Player who I thought was tightish
 
Avg. Finish
Early 9% (10%)
EM   17% (20%)
Mid. 43% (40%)
ML   20% (20%)
Late 12% (10%)
   
Scandie girl

Avg. Finish
Early 3% (10%)   Early 3% (10%)
EM    9% (20%)   EM   13% (20%)
Mid. 46% (40%)   Mid. 49% (40%)
ML   28% (20%)   ML   23% (20%)
Late 14% (10%)   Late 13% (10%)

Italian Porsche driver

Avg. Finish
Early 15% (10%)
EM   13% (20%)
Mid. 43% (40%)
ML   16% (20%)
Late 13% (10%)
   
prob best online player now

Avg. Finish
Early 4% (10%)
EM   12% (20%)
Mid. 39% (40%)
ML   29% (20%)
Late 16% (10%)
   
Judging by these figures I need to become more active in the middle of a mtt to get chips. Go out less in EM.
 
Or do these figures tell us almost nothing?
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2008, 06:47:59 PM »


Just from watching cardrunners vids I think the area where my strategy differed from the better players is the 20bb mark - these players seem quite happy to get these chips in as a resteal/for value, whereas I would still have thought that I "have time to wait for a hand".  So not sure how this fits in with your stats, but it probably strikes a chord if you feel you are a bit to tight.  One thing I remember from reading a Sklansky book years ago was him saying that if you never get caught bluffing you are not bluffing enough.  I think that the same thing applies in mtts in that if you are always getting your chips in when ahead, your probably not getting the chips in enough.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2008, 07:08:46 PM »

I have the same problem Neeko, if you look on OPR at the ITM rate the top guys get, it's fairly low (less than 20%).  Mine was much higher but I wasn't doing anything decent.  It's definitely something to do with the middle stages I'm sure, I don't make enough positive moves to try and win, I rather go for ITM than winning.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 02:38:20 PM »

thks guys this post certainly got me thinking and made 4 final tables this week,and a 23rd in the stars  5k guarenteed cheers steve
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 04:17:03 PM »

thks guys this post certainly got me thinking and made 4 final tables this week,and a 23rd in the stars  5k guarenteed cheers steve

Well done!
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