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« on: June 07, 2008, 03:33:32 AM »

I'm in the $10 freezeout, I am chip leader with around 4000 ish chips and my oppo's have no more than 1400 in chips.

My "feeling" is that one opponent BadTrips has AK - AJ or a medium pair, i am thinking 55 - 88 on the pairs, And I am thinking (probably wrongly)  mrwalshermay have a couple of paint cards....

Is folding a Good move here? or do i just Jam and see what fate brings?



Dealer: Starting a new hand (#1557422139)
Dealer: mrwalsher posts Small Blind 20
Dealer: gameson4ever posts Big Blind 40
Dealer: Dealing cards
Dealer: Your cards
Dealer: strozycki calls 40
Dealer: BadTrips raises to 120
Dealer: antzzz folds
Dealer: giorgiogala folds
Dealer: barklaj folds
Dealer: newmanseye1 raises to 360
Dealer: campusgold folds
Dealer: mrwalsher raises to 1,060
Dealer: gameson4ever folds
Dealer: strozycki folds
Dealer: BadTrips goes All-in 1,220
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 07:04:18 AM »

Well you've got a raise, reraise, rereraise and rerereraise so i'd deduce you are behind here lol.
This is my biggest weakness though because i've seen this happen with very mediocre hands and i always think this is the same.
Couple that with my reckless style, unfaltering optimism and the fact i'd still have plenty of chips and i'd call.
So you call and you're up against KK and JJ (badtrips has kk), lose and kick yourself for being such a cynic.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 02:42:32 PM »

Worst case - You lose and you're down to 2600 and still have 65 big blinds and plenty of play left.

Best case - You win and you're huge and can dominate everyone and win the whole thing.

Their range is still pretty wide even following this action in a $10 freezeout so go for it and get em in.

Then close your eyes and don't look back at your screen until the hand's been played out.

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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 03:15:19 PM »

Worst case - You lose and you're down to 2600 and still have 65 big blinds and plenty of play left.

Best case - You win and you're huge and can dominate everyone and win the whole thing.

Their range is still pretty wide even following this action in a $10 freezeout so go for it and get em in.

Then close your eyes and don't look back at your screen until the hand's been played out.



This was The line I was on.

I suppose i am trying to ascertain if its the right one for long term +EV
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 03:26:32 PM »

Worst case - You lose and you're down to 2600 and still have 65 big blinds and plenty of play left.

Best case - You win and you're huge and can dominate everyone and win the whole thing.

Their range is still pretty wide even following this action in a $10 freezeout so go for it and get em in.

Then close your eyes and don't look back at your screen until the hand's been played out.



This was The line I was on.

I suppose i am trying to ascertain if its the right one for long term +EV

LOL. Probably not. Best to ask one of the calculator boys  Grin

Seriously though, in cash I would guess not but in a tournament where we need all the chips then I think you've got to make the move, particularly with your big chip lead.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 11:22:03 PM »

How much does MR Walsaher have at the start of the hand? 

I think its a fold...
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2008, 11:35:02 PM »

How much does MR Walsaher have at the start of the hand? 

I think its a fold...

1180 was what he had If my memory is right, not amny more than that,  thats for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2008, 01:10:05 PM »

I'm in the $10 freezeout, I am chip leader with around 4000 ish chips and my oppo's have no more than 1400 in chips.

My "feeling" is that one opponent BadTrips has AK - AJ or a medium pair, i am thinking 55 - 88 on the pairs, And I am thinking (probably wrongly)  mrwalshermay have a couple of paint cards....

Is folding a Good move here? or do i just Jam and see what fate brings?



Dealer: Starting a new hand (#1557422139)
Dealer: mrwalsher posts Small Blind 20
Dealer: gameson4ever posts Big Blind 40
Dealer: Dealing cards
Dealer: Your cards
Dealer: strozycki calls 40
Dealer: BadTrips raises to 120
Dealer: antzzz folds
Dealer: giorgiogala folds
Dealer: barklaj folds
Dealer: newmanseye1 raises to 360
Dealer: campusgold folds
Dealer: mrwalsher raises to 1,060
Dealer: gameson4ever folds
Dealer: strozycki folds
Dealer: BadTrips goes All-in 1,220


If I've read this correctly from your post then mrwalsher only has 340 back so he wont be folding so it's going to cost you another 1040 and there will be 3020 to win from the pot. So you're getting just shy of 3:1 on your money.

you lose you have 2600 left - still in the hunt

you win you have 6660 ( oh bad Omen there Grin )

I think it's a shove IF I've read the op correctly
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 01:34:13 PM »

My "feeling" is that one opponent BadTrips has AK - AJ or a medium pair, i am thinking 55 - 88 on the pairs,

I have no idea what goes on at this level, but given the action, I can't believe that this can be correct.  He has only put 120 in the pot, why would he put the rest of his chips in with 88 after a 3 bet and a 4-bet?

FWIW you are 23% vs a AK, JJ+ range for both players.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 08:00:52 PM »

I see at this level that almost any PP calls, regardless of action, I knew i was probably getting the right odds to call.

FWIW I was up against AK and J 5
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