Joey Barton

[Hairydude]

If the guy did react with a swing at Barton- his top paid Lawyers woulda probably got him out of it

[boldie]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4413216.ece

Keegan is a giant feckin arse.

[Colchester Kev]

Newcastle lost 1-0 away to Doncaster Rovers on Saturday.  LOOOOOOOOOL

[Rooky9]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4413216.ece

Keegan is a giant feckin arse.

Why should NUFC have to put itself in a position to make moral judgements? Its a football club/business and should make football and business decisions only.

Society has dealt with Barton in the way that our laws say we should. The fact that in peoples opinions they are right or wrong has nothing to do with football or NUFC.

If he had commited an offence on NUFC business (like a cantona attack on a fan), then yes they should take action.

The incident happened before KK was manager and he said from the off that he would stick by him and give him a second chance. The fact he has had second chances at other times in his career is reasonably irrelevant in NUFC's decision to give him one under them. Rather than an arse KK is just sticking to his word. It may turn out that KKs bosses make a decision to impose something further on Joey Barton anyway, but again for me, that is of no concern to anyone other than the employer and the employee.

[jizzemm]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4413216.ece

Keegan is a giant feckin arse.

Why should NUFC have to put itself in a position to make moral judgements? Its a football club/business and should make football and business decisions only.

Society has dealt with Barton in the way that our laws say we should. The fact that in peoples opinions they are right or wrong has nothing to do with football or NUFC.

If he had commited an offence on NUFC business (like a cantona attack on a fan), then yes they should take action.

The incident happened before KK was manager and he said from the off that he would stick by him and give him a second chance. The fact he has had second chances at other times in his career is reasonably irrelevant in NUFC's decision to give him one under them. Rather than an arse KK is just sticking to his word. It may turn out that KKs bosses make a decision to impose something further on Joey Barton anyway, but again for me, that is of no concern to anyone other than the employer and the employee.

Good post Rooky

[boldie]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4413216.ece

Keegan is a giant feckin arse.

Why should NUFC have to put itself in a position to make moral judgements? Its a football club/business and should make football and business decisions only.

Society has dealt with Barton in the way that our laws say we should. The fact that in peoples opinions they are right or wrong has nothing to do with football or NUFC.

If he had commited an offence on NUFC business (like a cantona attack on a fan), then yes they should take action.

The incident happened before KK was manager and he said from the off that he would stick by him and give him a second chance. The fact he has had second chances at other times in his career is reasonably irrelevant in NUFC's decision to give him one under them. Rather than an arse KK is just sticking to his word. It may turn out that KKs bosses make a decision to impose something further on Joey Barton anyway, but again for me, that is of no concern to anyone other than the employer and the employee.

I am simply stunned by that reply. To have someone who, out of the blue, stamps the crap out of a team-mate and assaults someone else play in a PSV shirt would definitely upset me. That is not the sort of player I would want playing in the shirt of my club. The club I would take my kids to. The club I always wanted to play for when I was younger.

To say that Barton has already had numerous second chances but they are not NUFC's concern as they didn't happen while he was employed for NUFC baffles me. It goes to show a proper dodgy pattern in the behaviour of this young man..and , if I were his team mate, I wouldn't feel very safe working with the man.
NUFC shouldn't even have bought the player..that's where the mistake was made as now they can't get rid of him because they don't have the money to.
 It was bad enough that Lee Bowyer and Dyer couldn't behave themselves when playing for your club. To now say "yeah, any other job and you would have had the sack Joey but tell ya what..We're Newcastle..we don't mind our players beating the shit out of other people..or eachother" is a stunning piece of mismanagement.

This is an economical desicion, nothing more nothing less. Newcastle can't claim any moral ground as they don't have one, that is essentially it..they are showing themselves to be a small club, in every way.

[TheChipPrince]

Newcastle should get shut of him..

BUT i dont blame them at all for sticking by him, easy to get rid and get praise, then watch when someone else says ''thank you very much, we'll have a £6mil+ player for free as he's done his time and is now reformed''...

[Rooky9]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article4413216.ece

Keegan is a giant feckin arse.

Why should NUFC have to put itself in a position to make moral judgements? Its a football club/business and should make football and business decisions only.

Society has dealt with Barton in the way that our laws say we should. The fact that in peoples opinions they are right or wrong has nothing to do with football or NUFC.

If he had commited an offence on NUFC business (like a cantona attack on a fan), then yes they should take action.

The incident happened before KK was manager and he said from the off that he would stick by him and give him a second chance. The fact he has had second chances at other times in his career is reasonably irrelevant in NUFC's decision to give him one under them. Rather than an arse KK is just sticking to his word. It may turn out that KKs bosses make a decision to impose something further on Joey Barton anyway, but again for me, that is of no concern to anyone other than the employer and the employee.

I am simply stunned by that reply. To have someone who, out of the blue, stamps the crap out of a team-mate and assaults someone else play in a PSV shirt would definitely upset me. That is not the sort of player I would want playing in the shirt of my club. The club I would take my kids to. The club I always wanted to play for when I was younger.

To say that Barton has already had numerous second chances but they are not NUFC's concern as they didn't happen while he was employed for NUFC baffles me. It goes to show a proper dodgy pattern in the behaviour of this young man..and , if I were his team mate, I wouldn't feel very safe working with the man.
NUFC shouldn't even have bought the player..that's where the mistake was made as now they can't get rid of him because they don't have the money to.
 It was bad enough that Lee Bowyer and Dyer couldn't behave themselves when playing for your club. To now say "yeah, any other job and you would have had the sack Joey but tell ya what..We're Newcastle..we don't mind our players beating the shit out of other people..or eachother" is a stunning piece of mismanagement.

This is an economical desicion, nothing more nothing less. Newcastle can't claim any moral ground as they don't have one, that is essentially it..they are showing themselves to be a small club, in every way.

I had to bite me tongue really hard and I have to again now.

i) Would I prefer him not to be a Newcastle player in the first place - Yes. My whole reply is based on as is at this moment in time, because anything else just doesn't matter. I do not want my club to suffer what would be a material financial loss by trying to play god. In terms of kids its too easy for people to moan about role models. Its an excuse for poor parenting. It could also easily be turned into making an example of that type of behaviour - they will only have to look at the reception he'll get everywhere to see he has been 'bad'.

ii) I would be willing to bet there have been every bit as bad a training ground bust up at many clubs around the country. I'm not defending it or trying to belittle it - but its not like he is attacking his team mates everyday for them to be fearing for their safety. Eboue or Essien are more of a risk to a player than joey barton.
Yes, the mistake has been made and quite rightly imo they are making a business decision for their business (if indeed the party line is what KK has said)
How can you put that made up quote in quotation marks?!! There are thousands of people that have drunken brawls every weekend - do they all lose their jobs?

iii) Yes it is, and it should be imo. I don't think they have tried to claim a moral ground, nor should they have to.

Its simple for my opinion. Are Newcastle United, at this moment, with these circumstances, going to be stronger next year with Joey Barton in the squad - the answer is yes so I want him in. I wasn't part of the jury so its not my job to judge him.

I really don't understand it all kicking off today, just because he has come out. The situation is the same as it has been for the last month.

Of course you always seem to be right and your voice must be heard on everything so it may be quicker to just agree that Newcastle are scum in everyway - chuck them out the league, cut joey bartons legs off, extend the Byker wall to close in the whole city etc etc

[boldie]

It didn't really all kick off today though, it was already discussed when he got sent down and I am genuinely dissapointed in Newcastle here.

And most people who get a conviction for assault do indeed lose their jobs.

[Rooky9]

It didn't really all kick off today though, it was already discussed when he got sent down and I am genuinely dissapointed in Newcastle here.

And most people who get a conviction for assault do indeed lose their jobs.

Discussed yes. TalkSport have had a whole day talking about it = the kicked off comment.

So its the conviction rather than the offence?

We'll agree to disagree!!

[boldie]

It didn't really all kick off today though, it was already discussed when he got sent down and I am genuinely dissapointed in Newcastle here.

And most people who get a conviction for assault do indeed lose their jobs.

Discussed yes. TalkSport have had a whole day talking about it = the kicked off comment.

So its the conviction rather than the offence?

We'll agree to disagree!!

Ah, haven't listened to Talksport today mate.

agree to disagree we shall

[Rod Paradise]

Barton said "The first day's the toughest, no doubt about it. They march you in, hand you your uniform and force you to pose for the photographer while loads of fat, tattooed, skinheads shout abuse at you. That's when you know it's for real. A whole life blown away in the blink of an eye.
Nothing left but all the time in the world to think about it. That's when it hits home. That's when you realise you've signed for Newcastle."

[boldie]

Barton said "The first day's the toughest, no doubt about it. They march you in, hand you your uniform and force you to pose for the photographer while loads of fat, tattooed, skinheads shout abuse at you. That's when you know it's for real. A whole life blown away in the blink of an eye.
Nothing left but all the time in the world to think about it. That's when it hits home. That's when you realise you've signed for Newcastle."

[jizzemm]

Barton said "The first day's the toughest, no doubt about it. They march you in, hand you your uniform and force you to pose for the photographer while loads of fat, tattooed, skinheads shout abuse at you. That's when you know it's for real. A whole life blown away in the blink of an eye.
Nothing left but all the time in the world to think about it. That's when it hits home. That's when you realise you've signed for Newcastle."

 

[jizzemm]

More problems for him

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7535664.stm