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« on: November 12, 2008, 10:02:55 AM »

I know that posting the result is normally frowned upon, but my query here is about the result, and whether I should/could have played differently here.

My stats are  28/12/24/0.0 for the 84 hands played in the session and I've won most of the showdowns I've got to

The rest of the table is pretty standard for BF at this level, my callers were both VPIP >40.

NL $0.10/$0.20 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 12, 09:50:53 GMT 2008
Table Sodium 40 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: Barambol ( $20.09 )
Seat 2: gbshaw ( $14.50 )
Seat 3: falcon07 ( $26.97 )
Seat 4: buco ( $9.83 )
Seat 5: woodmouse ( $19.30 )
Seat 6: david3103 ( $36.92 )
gbshaw posts small blind [$0.10]
falcon07 posts big blind [$0.20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to david3103 [ , ]
buco folds
woodmouse calls [$0.20]
david3103 raises to [$0.40]
gbshaw calls [$0.30]
falcon07 calls [$0.20]
woodmouse calls [$0.20]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , Two Diamonds, ]
gbshaw checks
falcon07 checks
woodmouse checks
david3103 bets [$1.40]  I need to know if there's an A there don't I?
gbshaw folds
falcon07 folds
woodmouse folds
Returning uncalled bet [$1.40] to david3103
** Hand Conclusion **
david3103 wins $1.52 from main pot
************  Game 440795797 ends  ************

Is the bet on the flop too big? I figured I only get called by an A at this size, whereas a smaller bet lets the flush draw in?

I'm winning lately - thanks in no small measure to being here, but I wonder if I'm getting best value from hands.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 10:13:19 AM »

Why did you only min raise preflop? I think a c bet of $1 would have been better too.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 10:17:29 AM »

Did you misclick pre? If not really hate the min raise preflop make it at least 0.8 to go, you are just encouraging a multiway pot and if you want that you might as well limp behind and deepen the effective stacks.

On the flop, yeah i make it a little less but it is not an awful bet at the lower levels as they probably don't pay much attention to sizing and therefore we can our bets bigger to get max value.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 10:45:12 AM »

I don't like mid-size pairs much. I'd had a run of 88, 99 (twice), JJ over the last 15-20 hands and had mixed up the raise size with them and flat called a raise with 77.
I'd been winning with them too and if I'm honest I think I was concerned that this could be the hand that stopped the run.

The flop was not what I was hoping for. 1.40 to find out seemed right, if I bet $1 and get called what do I do with a diamond on the turn?
Getting called at $1.40 seems to me to say A, or maybe 22, or maybe 33...99?
Had I been called I'd have shutdown on the turn unless it was a 10.... yes?
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 11:09:31 AM »

If you are trying to restrict losses with mid pairs by min raising, you may as well argue that you'll restrict them by just limping.  Anyone that was going to play the hand unraised isn't going to be put off by the minraise.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 12:49:08 PM »

Did you misclick pre? If not really hate the min raise preflop make it at least 0.8 to go, you are just encouraging a multiway pot and if you want that you might as well limp behind and deepen the effective stacks.

On the flop, yeah i make it a little less but it is not an awful bet at the lower levels as they probably don't pay much attention to sizing and therefore we can our bets bigger to get max value.

Ok - got them again here and took your advice....

NL $0.10/$0.20 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 12, 12:46:52 GMT 2008
Table Sodium 83 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: kazel12 ( $16.24 )
Seat 2: IOU1 ( $22.45 )
Seat 3: bigtime22 ( $8.27 )
Seat 4: iamnicehere ( $4.20 )
Seat 5: david3103 ( $8.57 )
Seat 6: zevz1982 ( $27.46 )
bigtime22 posts small blind [$0.10]
iamnicehere posts big blind [$0.20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to david3103 [ , ]
david3103 raises to [$0.80]
zevz1982 folds
kazel12 calls [$0.80]
IOU1 calls [$0.80]
bigtime22 folds
iamnicehere folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]

now what?
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 01:16:26 PM »

c bet around $1.50
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 01:19:35 PM »

c bet around $1.50

Yup sounds good to me
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 01:24:27 PM »

i went for $1.35...

they folded  Smiley


little by little I'm improving my game, thanks again 
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 01:32:01 PM »

$1.35 is a decent bet too, it's a confident bet, nice result Smiley
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