JJ Preflop Problem

[paulhouk03]

i would isoraise 3bet to about 1400-1600. and call a shove from the utg min raiser

[AlexMartin]

i would isoraise 3bet to about 1400-1600. and call a shove from the utg min raiser

and what about the other guy? ur gonna cold 4b/fold?

[Rookie (Rodney)]

gtfo. we are taking on the world yo

[MANTIS01]

gtfo. we are taking on the world yo

Yes, I can just picture you and Flushy standing right at the very front of the Titanic with your arms out-stretched shouting something like that. Wouldn't that be magical. But in reality I think getting involved here is a shipwreck. Ahem.

[paulhouk03]

i would isoraise 3bet to about 1400-1600. and call a shove from the utg min raiser

and what about the other guy? ur gonna cold 4b/fold?

well when u 3b u will commited to call the other guy too. abit risky but thats what i would do

[Rookie (Rodney)]

gtfo. we are taking on the world yo

Yes, I can just picture you and Flushy standing right at the very front of the Titanic with your arms out-stretched shouting something like that. Wouldn't that be magical. But in reality I think getting involved here is a shipwreck. Ahem.

You would. But you also said TK's JTo play wasnt that bad. Please...

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: Rookie (Rodney)

You would. But you also said TK's JTo play wasnt that bad. Please...

Well buddy I think I was wrong saying the play wasn't too bad. Upon reflection I think I love the way he played it. It's all very well saying it's push or fold like you've unearthed some magical secret, but considering this is how every average player would play the hand I don't think it's all that special.

Check it out.

Goodwin has slightly LESS chips than Tony.

Tony says.....Marc is far & away the best player of the three, and then goes on to say....If I Button-Raise, Marc flats it, then bets out - & I miss every flop. That is pretty interesting really. So Goodwin isn't using the push or fold mantra you suggest at all. But you think it's the only viable strat in this situation. Hmmm.

3 handed and deal done means that pre-flop pushes are carrying little FE. So Goodwin is doing a series of stop & go plays instead. Letting the raiser miss before betting at the pot. This approach carries much more FE, and of course you may hit yourself. If Tony is thinking of betting lots of different flops then the play is stylish imo. Much more sophisticated than spaz shoving really. Then when Tony does hit the flop he plays the hand perfectly imo. In fact seemingly in the very same way that Goodwin would. But p-lease and all that.

[action man]

i fold here. Dont expect to see the 3better showing up with anything other than KK/AA here. If he has AK wow, youve missed a chance to flip for 30bb, no really tilt-inducing stuff. If he has TT or less then we have still made the right move long term so get over it yo.

[AlexMartin]

i fold here. Dont expect to see the 3better showing up with anything other than KK/AA here. If he has AK wow, youve missed a chance to flip for 30bb, no really tilt-inducing stuff. If he has TT or less then we have still made the right move long term so get over it yo.

srsly if clam says this is a fold, its a fold. weeeeeeeeeee was right in a tournament situation for once.

[NoflopsHomer]

I folded. OR called the original raiser and CRAI-ed on a 9-6-3 rainbow board. RR, committed, called with A-K and OR had T-T. T-T held though I still think this was the bottom of their ranges and think I was right to fold, despite Rooks calling me an ubernit.

[action man]

i fold here. Dont expect to see the 3better showing up with anything other than KK/AA here. If he has AK wow, youve missed a chance to flip for 30bb, no really tilt-inducing stuff. If he has TT or less then we have still made the right move long term so get over it yo.

[Thekellster89]

this is on crypto tho, they always min raise with AA.

pass imo

[Moorman1]

i'd fold in less than 2 seconds tbh

[mondatoo]

i'd fold in less than 2 seconds tbh

Just what i was about to say but i think this should only take 1 second, ur slacking moorman

[Royal Flush]

i'd fold in less than 2 seconds tbh

Just what i was about to say but i think this should only take 1 second, ur slacking moorman

Nah he is just muti table folding premiums, he is that good