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« Reply #1680 on: November 12, 2007, 06:01:07 PM »

The December issue of WPT magazine has a nice 6 page piece about dtd, info on the club and highlights from Rob's diary.

I have actually sent Snoopy the pdf doc of this and the raw text and said that if he wants to then for him to put it up on Blonde. I figured that as Blonde was where Rob kept his diary it was only right. I also figure it'd serve as a cliffnotes of this massive 100 page+ thread!
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« Reply #1681 on: November 14, 2007, 06:08:15 AM »

The December issue of WPT magazine has a nice 6 page piece about dtd, info on the club and highlights from Rob's diary.

I have actually sent Snoopy the pdf doc of this and the raw text and said that if he wants to then for him to put it up on Blonde. I figured that as Blonde was where Rob kept his diary it was only right. I also figure it'd serve as a cliffnotes of this massive 100 page+ thread!

Thank you for that. It will be uploaded at some point so non-WPT mag readers can see it too, but I thought it only fair for the article to have a life span in the magazine first as you were the guys who went to the effort of writing it.
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« Reply #1682 on: December 03, 2007, 11:36:11 PM »

I think its appropriate that I should make a post after we have finally opened. I am absolutely shattered as are all the dtd staff who have worked so hard over the last 5 days, it has been exhausting starting at 6pm and not leaving till 8am for 5 days. I'm sure we'll get quicker at closing up!

We have all learnt more in the last 5 days than the last 3 years and I expect dtd's policies and procedures to be tweaked over the coming weeks and months. I have been taking a close interest in everything going on and not afraid to change things, for example, on the first night the cash game rake was way above our expected amount/hr, so I decided to bring the rake down the next evening so it was in line with paying session fees at the Vic Club (adjusting for the London weighting). There were many other adjustments made over the last 5 days, many of them not visible to the customers. We have a huge snagging list to deal with, down to basic things we missed such as a sign to the smoking area -  however, we will get better.

Overall, the opening week was a resounding success IMO. However, because it was invite only, it was easier to deal with any issues as I personally knew at least 90% of the customers. The real test will be opening our doors to the public this Thursday, who I am sure will be more critical of us. However, I know that the huge majority were very impressed with the Club and I do not have a clue how many people will visit us this week.

It was unfortunate that we had to bar 3 people over the first 4 days of opening, I certainly did not enjoy doing this, I gave everyone a fair chance no matter what the history was. I have read the thread regarding barring Ken from Gala Nottingham, it is not true that he was escorted from the premises, but it is true he was subsequently barred. When people are barred, it is for life, there is no temporary barring at dtd. Also, I think we are probably much stricter than most establishments, so if someone gets barred, they may not have done anything too serious. If we think dtd will be a better place for our staff and our customers without a person visiting us, this is enough reason to barr someone from dtd, I want to keep the atmosphere right and dtd be a venue that I want to visit myself and that the members feel is their own club.

I had 100's of suggestions from players (as well as bad beat stories) over the last 4 days, I must have spoken to 300+ people myself for feedback. I know people are very enthusiastic about the club, but we are not going to get very ambitious over the next 6-12 months, we are going to take it slow and get more experience and more efficient. There is no rush to have huge comps and do deals with third parties to host their events, we will just focus on our club and the world outside those walls will not concern us. There will also be no rush to open more days, 4 days is enough for the foreseable future, me and my team want to enjoy this job, not be stressed out all the time, this is not a business, its a pastime, and it will be managed accordingly. I certianly do not want to be an important person in the poker business world and I just want to enjoy hosting people who visit our club, I don't want to a hobby turning into a milestone around my neck again.

A lot of people were very upbeat about dtd "beating the casinos", in fact, they actually really won, they delayed the opening as long as possible and tried to cripple me financially, that was their real target, I think they never thought they could prevent us from opening in the long term. Players can now choose where to play, some will prefer the free teas and coffees in the casinos' card rooms, subsidised by the table games, some will prefer to play in a venue such as dtd. I have always said that dtd and the Casino card rooms can co-exist, and I believe this to still be the case. We are not necessarily chasing the same customers and there are little similarities in our two products.

There is no doubt in my mind we have the best venue for poker in Europe and the European professional players that came over to see us also confirmed this opinion. A few people asked if they could play Backgammon at dtd, they offered to pay a session fee, I said "no,  we are a poker club only club and will stay that way". Some astute business people spent time telling me of the merits of putting roulette, blackjack and slots into dtd, since our 1968 Licence has converted into a full 2005 Casino Licence with no restictions, they got the same answer, "no, we are a poker only club and will stay that way".

In summary, I am over the moon with the first 4 days of opening, and my staff have been brilliant as have nearly all of the customers. A job well done.

Cheers Rob
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« Reply #1683 on: December 03, 2007, 11:47:53 PM »

Would you please pass on my thanks and congratulations to all your staff Rob. They are the life-blood of any card room, and I thought they were excellent.
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« Reply #1684 on: December 04, 2007, 01:16:09 AM »

Well said, Red-Dog
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« Reply #1685 on: December 04, 2007, 05:56:39 AM »

here here .

btw red what did you have when i laid down my tips?.
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« Reply #1686 on: December 04, 2007, 06:52:18 AM »

Rob, as usual an eloquent and engaging post. Congratulations on finally opening! Smiley
I have not managed to come down yet but intend to on Thurs or Friday so hope to see you there.

Cheers,
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« Reply #1687 on: January 07, 2008, 02:13:11 AM »

Really enjoyed the club Rob. Hope to be visiting many more times in the future.
A heck of a lot of thought and planning has gone into this venture and I am sure
you will attract some great events to the club. Looking forward to your festival
week. I agree that you should only stay 4 days a week at the moment - longer term
you may get a team that will look to hold events Mon-Wed but there is definitely
no need at the moment. 

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« Reply #1688 on: January 07, 2008, 02:55:39 AM »

if anyone sees james from dtd neighbours down the club give him a slap from me for not opening on friday or sunday this week

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« Reply #1689 on: January 09, 2008, 01:56:54 PM »

How do how do, looking to get a question answered here. I'm flying into EMA this Saturday for a day trip to Manchester to watch United play(much much cheaper since I only booked today) Anyway I'll be back in Nottingham on Saturday night at 12ish and need to kill a few hours b4 my flight at 9am(sleep is for fools!). So my question is can I just sign up on the door and go in and play or are there any crazy UK rules ? Also what cash games are on offer?


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« Reply #1690 on: January 09, 2008, 02:01:21 PM »

sign in on the door with photo ID

cash games..anything from 0.5-1 hold em up to 10-20, and plenty of Omaha/Dealers choice too

the tournament that night begins at 7.30pm
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« Reply #1691 on: January 09, 2008, 02:02:41 PM »

How do how do, looking to get a question answered here. I'm flying into EMA this Saturday for a day trip to Manchester to watch United play(much much cheaper since I only booked today) Anyway I'll be back in Nottingham on Saturday night at 12ish and need to kill a few hours b4 my flight at 9am(sleep is for fools!). So my question is can I just sign up on the door and go in and play or are there any crazy UK rules ? Also what cash games are on offer?


Cheers

It's best to register Online at DTD.com first, & you will need to bring proper ID with you - Passport, Picture style Driving Licence. That's it, simple.

The Club is open until 6am.

Cash Games. There are always 10 or 12 Cash-Games on the go, from £0.50-£1.00, to £5-£10, & they lay Hold'Em. Omaha, & Dealers Choice. There are also non-stop SNG's.

Enjoy.
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« Reply #1692 on: January 09, 2008, 02:04:25 PM »

How do how do, looking to get a question answered here. I'm flying into EMA this Saturday for a day trip to Manchester to watch United play(much much cheaper since I only booked today) Anyway I'll be back in Nottingham on Saturday night at 12ish and need to kill a few hours b4 my flight at 9am(sleep is for fools!). So my question is can I just sign up on the door and go in and play or are there any crazy UK rules ? Also what cash games are on offer?


Cheers


Oh, & EMA is about 15 minutes by taxi from DTD, so you can play until 6am, then jump a cab to the Airport. Perfect.
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« Reply #1693 on: January 09, 2008, 02:11:52 PM »

Cheers lads, place seems a bit posh from looking at the website. How strict are they on the dress code because I'll prob be wearing runners as I've a lot of walking to do
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« Reply #1694 on: January 09, 2008, 02:40:09 PM »

That's a big stipulation - NO SPORTS TRAINERS......Bring extra shoes please!
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