Penalty for flat calling nuts, last to act?

[Doobs]

Isn't there an overiding rule of poker that you disregard the other rules and do what is fair on occasions like this?

[Steve Swift]

You wish for information on your opponent and by placing in a bet that could see your opposition fold his hand, you lose that opportunity. Or;


Now that has some logic to it, hmmmmmmm   my self I suppose I want the chance of getting more chips but can see why balla players might want the above.

Steve

[david3103]

Personally, I have never felt that "flat calling" with the 'nuts' is deserving of a penalty.

If it is someone really experienced, I am more likely to question their motives but it would generally still result in a warning and that such behaviour is something I would monitor going forwards.

You either do it because:

You're trying to cheat/chip dump,
You wish for information on your opponent and by placing in a bet that could see your opposition fold his hand, you lose that opportunity. Or;
You genuinely didn't realise your hand.

99.9% of the time, in my experience, it is the 3rd option and occasionally the 2nd.

You cannot calculate or pre-plan being in a situation where you have the absolute best hand and then go on to use it advantageously to benefit a friend/conspirator etc thus it would seem to me that we should therefore consider that the situation arises through error or a desire to gain information. You could also argue that is situationally beneficial to someone in order to exploit certain situations such as the bubble.

Irrespective, I am rambling:

We do not have a rule that indicates you forfeit the pot. I have no idea how that came to be believed, but usually if something sounds absurd - it probably is!

Thanks for the clarification. I was astonished that it was even suggested, but the noise was great.

[SuuPRlim]

If you're properly soft playing each other and one of you bets the river, and the other one goes all in the if the soft playing arrangement is pre made then surely they would know they aren't being bluffed, and that if they had the second nuts they'd jut call so they should fold...they lose same chips as if they'd just called anyways ?!?!