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« on: February 11, 2009, 10:38:28 PM »
3rd hand in the $55 f/o double stack on blonde

Early mid pos limps folded round to sb who makes up, us on BB with QQ raise to 100 called by limper

Flop 10c

We lead 140 call

Turn

I bet 280 call hmm

River we check he bets pot of 1k

What do you do ?

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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 10:40:00 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 10:41:04 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 11:06:02 PM »
Quote from: bolt pp on February 11, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 11:13:10 PM »
Quote from: bolt pp on February 11, 2009, 10:41:04 PM
check/call

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 11:13:58 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 11:35:21 PM »
So,although it's impossible to define the players range due to only 3 hands what do we generally put him on to limp pre then flat call twice and put in such a strong bet on the river ?
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 11:51:08 PM »
oppo has     snap call
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 11:57:45 PM »
why is c/c better than bet/fold here

c/c is good when it snaps off missed draws, but what draws have missed? J8sooted I guess? whereas bet/fold gets value from all the second-best hands that these people have in their range that could too easily check the river,  and its not like they often shove with worse. its a tournament afterall.  For c/c to be better than b/f it feels like you would need to have a type of opponent that value-bets hands that would fold if you bet and would turn marginal made hands into bluffs.... which is hard to figure out after 3 hands.  Is this typical for tourney players these days?

I guess our hand is face-up, and a bet might get a jam from a hand like 10J/99, but are people really turning hands into bluffs this often, this early in tourneys?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 02:46:10 AM »
fwiw i reckon u are crushed here alot of the time.  agree alot with what totalise said
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