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Swordpoker
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From my own experience, definitely get them to agree in writing to send you a copy of the article for proof reading.
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Quote from: GreekStein on March 04, 2009, 03:54:21 PM
When did Barry DaveShoelace Carter have a sex change?
Its my moonlighting gig, I just tuck it inbetween my legs, no need to chop it off.
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Quote from: dino1980 on March 04, 2009, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: thetank on March 04, 2009, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: weedgie on March 04, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
i want to tell full truth in it but want to potray game in truthfull way and not in negative way that most of public seem to look at poker
You need to become a journalist and write the article yourself then.
It is likely the journalist already has the thing half written, and what you say in the interview will have very little affect on the direction of the finished piece.
Lol, truth is we've generally barely finished preparing the questions before we interview anyone, let alone written half of it! Also after a couple of questions the subject says something far more interesting and we run with that angle rather than asking most of the questions we've prepared!
Although to be fair most player profiles of UK players go a little something like this...
- discovered poker by watching Late Night Poker
- played a few home games with mates lost in the beginning
- slowly got better by reading a book or having more dedication than their friends
- played a few casino tournaments, ran well
- eventually win something big
- profit?
There is a tremendous difference between a journalist in the traditional sense and a poker journalist where it comes to interviews and the like. The poker journalist is actually under a lot of pressure to write an interview that will keep everyone, especially the player and their sponsors, very happy because there is almost always an affiliate/advertising partnership with said player and sponsor. For example, lets say Nick or I were asked to interview
Phil
Hellmuth
and just before we started he did a line of coke, stamped on a puppy and groped a cocktail waitress - that's the sort of dirt that would get a proper journo a pay rise and a pat on the back, but it would probably mean a poker journalist would never work in the industry again if it made the print (I know a couple of people for whom that has happened because they told the truth about the wrong people and it almost happened to me a few years ago when I broke a big story that painted a poker room in a bad light)
So we dont always make it up as we go along and in advance, sometimes we actually have to do the opposite and edit what the players have said to protect them and ourselves.
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Re: interview need help
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March 05, 2009, 12:01:59 PM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: dino1980 on March 04, 2009, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: thetank on March 04, 2009, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: weedgie on March 04, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
i want to tell full truth in it but want to potray game in truthfull way and not in negative way that most of public seem to look at poker
You need to become a journalist and write the article yourself then.
It is likely the journalist already has the thing half written, and what you say in the interview will have very little affect on the direction of the finished piece.
Lol, truth is we've generally barely finished preparing the questions before we interview anyone, let alone written half of it! Also after a couple of questions the subject says something far more interesting and we run with that angle rather than asking most of the questions we've prepared!
Although to be fair most player profiles of UK players go a little something like this...
- discovered poker by watching Late Night Poker
- played a few home games with mates lost in the beginning
- slowly got better by reading a book or having more dedication than their friends
- played a few casino tournaments, ran well
- eventually win something big
- profit?
There is a tremendous difference between a journalist in the traditional sense and a poker journalist where it comes to interviews and the like. The poker journalist is actually under a lot of pressure to write an interview that will keep everyone, especially the player and their sponsors, very happy because there is almost always an affiliate/advertising partnership with said player and sponsor. For example, lets say Nick or I were asked to interview
Phil
Hellmuth
and just before we started he did a line of coke, stamped on a puppy and groped a cocktail waitress - that's the sort of dirt that would get a proper journo a pay rise and a pat on the back, but it would probably mean a poker journalist would never work in the industry again if it made the print (
I know a couple of people for whom that has happened because they told the truth about the wrong people and it almost happened to me a few years ago when I broke a big story that painted a poker room in a bad light)
So we dont always make it up as we go along and in advance, sometimes we actually have to do the opposite and edit what the players have said to protect them and ourselves.
Perhaps that explains the conspiracy of total silence in the Industry Press as to the Poker Trillion scandal.
See you Sunday. And we won't be discussing Trillion.
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That's why I never read poker magazines.
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Quote from: thetank on March 05, 2009, 01:01:27 PM
That's why I never read poker magazines.
To be fair, you can see Barry's point.
If he writes for a magazine or website which carries advertising from a particular Poker Site, it's hardly good for business to tell it how it is. Until, I'd assume, the mag gets shafted by the Poker Room. Ought to be open season then!
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March 05, 2009, 01:23:53 PM »
I agree - when I wrote for the Sun I had a great expose on a financial company that was dynamite. Great story, we sweated over it, did undercover stuff, the whole thing and then at the last minute it was stopped because of the amount it spent on ads. The edictor wanted to run it but the ad editor disagreed and you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have been involved recently in a media story which should be exposed as a complete croc, but the papers are holding back because at the moment it's selling lots of papers.
I always look at the angles behind a story, it never seems to be what it's made out to be.
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Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop. I personally want the poker industry to thrive, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay, Flushy is his love child, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
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March 05, 2009, 01:55:08 PM »
Quote from: Dingdell on March 05, 2009, 01:23:53 PM
I agree - when I wrote for the Sun I had a great expose on a financial company that was dynamite. Great story, we sweated over it, did undercover stuff, the whole thing and then at the last minute it was stopped because of the amount it spent on ads. The edictor wanted to run it but the ad editor disagreed and you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I have been involved recently in a media story which should be exposed as a complete croc, but the papers are holding back because at the moment it's selling lots of papers.
I always look at the angles behind a story, it never seems to be what it's made out to be.
Especially if it's in The S*n.
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Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop.
I personally want the poker industry to thrive
, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay, Flushy is his love child, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
Well, we all do. Bu if Sites pull stunts like PT did, it cannot be good for the industry as a whole. Exposing them is not about personal gain or loss, to you or me, or sites, it's about cleaning up a murky business.
I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale, I think it's fair to say. As you well know.
OK, gotta go, off out now, remind me to duscuss this with you on Sunday!
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I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale
What comes around...?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=8790766&postcount=1
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Quote from: tikay on March 05, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop.
I personally want the poker industry to thrive
, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay, Flushy is his love child, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
Well, we all do. Bu if Sites pull stunts like PT did, it cannot be good for the industry as a whole. Exposing them is not about personal gain or loss, to you or me, or sites, it's about cleaning up a murky business.
I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale, I think it's fair to say. As you well know.
OK, gotta go, off out now, remind me to duscuss this with you on Sunday!
I agree, I actually wrote a few pieces about PT and a certain other online poker scandal, both of which had the cleaning up of the industry in mind, both of which never were published by the magazines for the reasons already stated and if and when one of those things comes up again, I will try and write about it. Its just the Clonie sueing FT, is X player broke, is x player a nipper, x poker player was in jail,
Vanessa
Rousso
in sports illustrated side of things I try and avoid.
Anyhoo, see you Sunday
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Quote from: tikay on March 05, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop.
I personally want the poker industry to thrive
, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay,
Flushy is his love child
, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
Well, we all do. Bu if Sites pull stunts like PT did, it cannot be good for the industry as a whole. Exposing them is not about personal gain or loss, to you or me, or sites, it's about cleaning up a murky business.
I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale, I think it's fair to say. As you well know.
OK, gotta go, off out now, remind me to duscuss this with you on Sunday!
No denial i see hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Quote from: cia260895 on March 05, 2009, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: tikay on March 05, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop.
I personally want the poker industry to thrive
, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay,
Flushy is his love child
, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
Well, we all do. Bu if Sites pull stunts like PT did, it cannot be good for the industry as a whole. Exposing them is not about personal gain or loss, to you or me, or sites, it's about cleaning up a murky business.
I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale, I think it's fair to say. As you well know.
OK, gotta go, off out now, remind me to duscuss this with you on Sunday!
No denial i see hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Give me a break - even I'm not old enough to be Flushy's Dad - he's 45, you know! (Soft life, & a home cinema Room when he was a kid).
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Quote from: tikay on March 05, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: cia260895 on March 05, 2009, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: tikay on March 05, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on March 05, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
Regarding the PT thing, just about everyone I write for did indeed get screwed over by them and the almost universal stance taken by all of them was 'lets not give these guys any publicity, good or bad'. It certainly wouldn't have been the line I adopted but I guess I can see their point, now that PT is no more (And assuming Rockem are not actually PT with a new name) I don't see why it isn't open season now.
From my own personal point of view, I don't particularly want to try and expose major shocking stories anyway, mainly because I am a poker player who got into journalism not the other way around, so I don't have that ruthless desire for a big scoop.
I personally want the poker industry to thrive
, so I am not that keen to ruin anyone or piss anyone off unless its in the interests of the wider poker industry. That does make me a bit of a wuss I guess, but I'm a wuss who gets lots of work, thankfully (And genuinely) most of the people and poker rooms I have worked with have been pretty stand up guys and the handful of them I dont respect I have managed to avoid.
Keep an eye out for my expose on Tikay,
Flushy is his love child
, Kev is not really from Colchester and Tighty bets middle pair shockers!
Well, we all do. Bu if Sites pull stunts like PT did, it cannot be good for the industry as a whole. Exposing them is not about personal gain or loss, to you or me, or sites, it's about cleaning up a murky business.
I had a fascinating convo with Tony G a day or two ago, apropros Poker Trillion. He's not exactly happy about the Trillion tale, I think it's fair to say. As you well know.
OK, gotta go, off out now, remind me to duscuss this with you on Sunday!
No denial i see hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Give me a break - even I'm not old enough to be Flushy's Dad - he's 45, you know! (Soft life, & a home cinema Room when he was a kid).
You're still easily old enough if he's 45.
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