Did I play this bad?...

[MC]

Any arguments for open-folding the flop here? Maybe even preflop? Can't help thinking I donked off over 3k when I was unlikely to be good...


***** Hand 1509514494 *****
150.00/300.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:06:37 PM
DEEPSTACK €3,500 GTD (Real /Tournament )
Seat 1: Atkinator- (19650.00)
Seat 2: 12jackoffs (5866.00)
Seat 3: Lvries (7069.00)
Seat 4: somkovsky (20640.00)
Seat 5: rocker24 (12530.00)
Seat 6: Eoro1712 (8175.00)
Seat 7: Lana666 (5615.00)
Seat 8: hanson7 (5132.00)
Seat 9: Unknown (0.00)
Seat 10: Unknown (0.00)
Atkinator- post SB 150.00
12jackoffs post BB 300.00
** Deal **
Atkinator- [As, ]
12jackoffs [N/A, N/A]
Lvries [N/A, N/A]
somkovsky [N/A, N/A]
rocker24 [N/A, N/A]
Eoro1712 [N/A, N/A]
Lana666 [N/A, N/A]
hanson7 [N/A, N/A]
*** Bet Round 1 ***
Lvries Fold
somkovsky Call 300.00
rocker24 Raise to 600.00
Eoro1712 Call 600.00
Lana666 Fold
hanson7 Fold
Atkinator- Call 600.00
12jackoffs Call 600.00
somkovsky Call 600.00
*** Flop(Board): *** : [, , ]
*** Bet Round 2 ***
Atkinator- Check
12jackoffs Check
somkovsky Check
rocker24 Bet 900.00
Eoro1712 Fold
Atkinator- Raise to 3000.00
12jackoffs Fold
somkovsky All-in 20040.00
rocker24 All-in 11930.00
Atkinator- Fold

[Newmanseye]

folding pre is kinds daft as no action tells you you have the worst of it, on the flop I think you got off cheap. rocker saved you chips. the reraise on the flop could have been different and achieved the same result.  Although i cant find a comfy number, 1200 - 1600 range, sets the reraise standard and you saved 4 - 5 blinds.

[MC]

folding pre is kinds daft as no action tells you you have the worst of it, on the flop I think you got off cheap. rocker saved you chips. the reraise on the flop could have been different and achieved the same result.  Although i cant find a comfy number, 1200 - 1600 range, sets the reraise standard and you saved 4 - 5 blinds.

Yeah good point about the re-raise.

Your reasoning is the reason I did call, however I couldn't help thinking playing this pot oop against several players when there was a min-raise to a limper would be tricky unless I flopped a monster. This kinda flop was the reason folding crossed my mind...

[LeKnave]

raize pre.

[RichardL]

i would 3 bet pre and get it in if he shoved (unless the ep limper shoves)

I wouldnt ever respect the min raiser for a big hand here, after he min raises over a limper. 3 bet pre, and be happy to get it in vs the pre flop raisor i think. 3 bet/fold vs any aggression action from players other than the pre flop raisor

[GlasgowBandit]

raize pre.

This.  Bearing in mind if Le Knave did he'd probably bink a QQQ flop.

[MC]

I wouldnt ever respect the min raiser for a big hand here

Really? I was sure this was strong at the time. Hadn't seen him make a raise previously to this. I know people in STT's do this with stuff like KT, but in a deepstack tourney with antes involved and against an early postion limp, from early position, i thought this was a donk with a premium...

I was much closer to folding pre than 3 betting considering we're in the small blind. On the button I could understand. The original raiser is deep, and a raise to 2k when it looks like we could get 2 callers with AQ off seems undesirable?

[LeKnave]

I was much closer to folding pre than 3 betting considering we're in the small blind. On the button I could understand. The original raiser is deep, and a raise to 2k when it looks like we could get 2 callers with AQ off seems undesirable?

ahhhh iv misread the hand HH, i thought ud limped behind, yeah i prob prefer a flat pre in that case.

[Nem]

raize pre.