TDA rules

[tikay]

To answer Yogi's questions......

1). I see no reason why Casino Groups should refuse to implement TDA Rules (or whoevers) simply because they were not involved in formulting them. It's not the Casino's job to make the rules of how we play poker, they dont want it to be their problem, & nor do we. Lets not forget who's game this is.

2) Nio idea, but theres no reason why they should not be allowed to contribute to the debate, as they have valuable feedback gained from implementing rules on a daily basis.

3). They will be improved with the passage of time & experience. Or we can forget all about the TDA Rules, & formulate another set. It does not matter whose rules we use, so long as we all use the same rules.

?). Where TDA Rules conflict with the Gaming Board Directives, obviously the GB wins. So if a set of largely standard rules are eventully drafted, they may need to be on a country by country basis, to comply with local law. In Denmark, for example, Rebuys & add-ons are not legal. In the UK, you are supposed to be sat down at the start of the tourney. In Austria, you can turn up 2 hours late. These local anomolies cannot be avoided. The law is the law.

[Karabiner]

Yogi, I feel that any set of tournament rules always has to leave room for the TD's discretion.

If you feel that someone is "angle-shooting" you need the latitude to make a different ruling than for a genuine mistake.

That is always going to be the TD's call

[tikay]

Agreed Karabiner, there is no way round this. And TD's are like referees in football - there are good ones & bad ones, those who know the law precisely, & those with the intelligence to interpret it sensibly.

Paul Jackson - a good pal I might add - pulled a stroke at Luton recently, quite deliberately & with aforethought. He knew the punishment was that his bet would HAVE to stand - exactly as he wanted!

So Simon was, in due course, asked to give a ruling. After pondering it for a few moments, he announced that Paul's actions constituted a moody, and as such, his bet was NOT allowed to stand.

Common Sense by a TD beats rules any day!

[Yogi-Bear]

I see no reason for casino groups not to implement them either. But that is not my call. I was only asking questions that will come up. I've been to RULES meetings. I know the sort of people that would need convincing. My GOD people can get VERY funny when u question their rules. I am of the same opinion as the majority of people anyway. The basic rules should be uniform across the country and the world. Unfortunately I can't ever see it, too many egos and companies who want to do things their own way. After all to quote someone who will have to remain nameless.

" If they want to play in our clubs then they play by the rules we choose"

I have used this quote, purposely out of the context that it was said. But I am sure that this is the overwhelming attitude from Senior managers in the casino industry.

I hope I'm wrong.

Yogi

[BlueWolf]

Cant believe you havent mentioned my idea here seniore Yogi.

A little off topic i guess but in regards to players and casinos grouping together to have a say in how things go.

An idea i have had for a long time and one i have put forward to be considered here in blackpool is thatw e have our first Player forum.

Very similair to the situation in most proffesional football clubs, where once over a period of time groups of players are invited to a discussion with Supervisors, senior dealers and managment of a particularcardroom in order to discuss any arising problems and work out any possible solutions that could be implemented.
After all both sides have some very interesting ideas that can be oput forward.

I feel this could be a huge step forward in the industry as it gives clubs the chance to gain an advantage of competitiors by producing player friendly setups which will generate more players and more appeal. It will also give players a rare insight into how the cardroom machine operates behinmd the scenes and give them chance to listen to explanations of why certain things that maybe they dont agree with, happen within that club, instead of the usual memo or just being told by soemone how didnt make that executive decision.

I put this forward at my former club about 2 years ago and it wasoverlooked.

But remember if this happens anywhere your all my witnesses that it was MY idea lol and not the great Yogis hehehehe.

Be interesting to hear peoples thoughts on this though.

[tikay]

That's a GREAT idea!

Folks are better able to understand, & more likely to accept situations if they know the reasoning. Why don't you start earlier/later, have more/less freezeouts, accept/not accept people turning up late for comps da de da de da.

Tremendous idea. You sure it was your idea? - I think Ironsode will claim this one.....

[Yogi-Bear]

The reason I din't mention it is so you could have all the credit.

For too long now I've been using your skills and taking all the credit.

Thought it was time to come clean

HEHEHEHEHE

Yogi

[londonpokergirl]

I've been using TDA rules for a few years, and they are very good, but you just have to adapt them
to European cardrooms which isn't hard to do, just a pain in the bum