HE live hand on button

[Ironside]

limper in MP your on button with you limp in bb checks

blinds 50/100

3 sees a

checked to you how do you play it?


stacks are all about 4-6k

[Cas-Az]

limper in MP your on button with you limp in bb checks

blinds 50/100

3 sees a

checked to you how do you play it?


stacks are all about 4-6k

I bet 3/4 Pot here, looks like the limper's are check calling/folding. You have massive drawing potential, if your re-raised, id prob shove with the huge draw......

But Im wild, so that's prob a bad play.....

[outragous76]

i check here

i assume with that board you are prepared to play for all your stack. However if you bet and get raised you ARE playing for all your stack cause you will have to 4 bet shove.

i try and catch up and then milk the value from any Ax type holding.

The check on that board could easily be 2 pair . I would work on the basis that most of my draws are live (excluding a 4 broadway board) and play the hand accordingly on remaining streets.

[Dubai]

Raise pre

[AlexMartin]

fine, now bet.

[Ironside]

ok you make it 300 bb calls ks on turn  bb thinks reachs for chips then checks. You?

[noble1]

check - bad card for us lol hope for a club preferably a ten    bb most probably has a lot of Queens in his range here..

[Ironside]

check - bad card for us lol hope for a club preferably a ten    bb most probably has a lot of Queens in his range here..

you think Q features alot in his range?

i am trying to think of he hands with a Q that he  check pre and check calls post with QJ Q9 and QT being the only 3

[noble1]

limped pot a QXcc oop some might also check call cannot discount - king on turn ... now looking to ch/r turn?
also whats the plan if we bet and get check raised and likewise if we lead get called again what are we hoping to see on the river?
imo if villain is any good what range is calling that flop bet - rag ace,QJ QT Q9 KJmaybe TJ J9 JXo JXcc or 2 random clubs
plus what does he put us on? not a big ace,not KQ KJ KT unlikely given action pre TJ is a maybe ish as is rag ace or a low flush draw and he can consider us on 89 as well , and hands that fit his range QT QJ Q9 etc and/or we bluffed..

i favour some pot control here on the turn and re-evaluate river and see what action he takes...if a club comes and he checks then i'm happy to vb,if he leads just call...if the river card is a blank for us and he leads its a easy fold,if he checks then i'm tempted to bluff but will choose not to if the magical and he leads i'll be very happy...

[KarmaDope]

Gotta agree with Noble, check the turn - the K takes away all our straight outs so we're now drawing to the flush realistically.

Qxcc is definitely in Villain's range as well, we might even be drawing dead. I give up here.

[Ironside]

ok i actually agreed with checking the turn to keep pot control

hits the river giving you the 2nd nuts

but your behind to any queen

bb leads out for 500

do you call? i take it a reraise is out the question after the pot control check on turn?

how much would you call as a maximium?

[noble1]

call for me... i,d probably call anything up to a pot bet given we have plenty back...
re-raise i'd only consider if i had a read on villains style/betting patterns..... be interesting if villain led with a overbet on the river....would this be more deceptive?