Hands i play badly today

[LeKnave]

i dont understand the KJ hand at all (the open jam with limper infront)

Why so many BB's - and why with  a hand that has cards which fall into calling ranges (the K?)

Middy also just rejammed with KJ - didnt think this is a great hand to be moving with - what am i missing?

lol it was a misclick obv!

[810ofclubs]

i dont understand the KJ hand at all (the open jam with limper infront)

Why so many BB's - and why with  a hand that has cards which fall into calling ranges (the K?)

Middy also just rejammed with KJ - didnt think this is a great hand to be moving with - what am i missing?

lol it was a misclick obv!

ment to b 1200 not 12000 but i think 12k ftw tbh

[810ofclubs]

Hand 1 of tilt 150.


Full Tilt Poker Game #13390110585: $50,000 Guarantee (98237151), Table 25 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:01:00 ET - 2009/07/14
Seat 1: siggy2333 (3,000)
Seat 2: LuvYouLongTime (3,000)
Seat 3: chippotte (3,000)
Seat 4: Thuder80 (3,000)
Seat 5: oripok (3,000)
Seat 6: beland66 (3,000)
Seat 8: The Norse Horse (3,000)
Seat 9: Scott Fischman (3,000)
siggy2333 posts the small blind of 10
LuvYouLongTime posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Norse Horse [ ]
chippotte folds
Thuder80 calls 20
oripok folds
beland66 has 15 seconds left to act
beland66 has timed out
beland66 folds
beland66 is sitting out
The Norse Horse raises to 80
Scott Fischman folds
siggy2333 calls 70
LuvYouLongTime folds
Thuder80 folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
siggy2333 checks
The Norse Horse has 15 seconds left to act
The Norse Horse bets 140
siggy2333 raises to 280
The Norse Horse calls 140
*** TURN *** [ ] []
siggy2333 has 15 seconds left to act
siggy2333 bets 480
The Norse Horse has 15 seconds left to act
The Norse Horse calls 480
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
siggy2333 has 15 seconds left to act
siggy2333 bets 880
The Norse Horse has 15 seconds left to act
The Norse Horse has requested TIME
SzNuR sits down
SzNuR adds 3,000
The Norse Horse calls 880
*** SHOW DOWN ***

ok this is weird he isnt gunna bluff of all his chips 1st hand hopefully so his value range for min raising flop and betting turn and river is AJ, KJ, QJ, J10, AKss, KQss, 89ss, 1010, 66, AA(hopefully not but seen worse), JJ and i may hav missed a couple but i think this range of hands hands is too big for you to be calling river with. Pls do stove if any1 can b bothered. I guess u should fold cause i think he always has u beat. Im going with 89ss??

[810ofclubs]

Hijacked

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 548586450 *****
NL $5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 14, 18:07:57 GMT 2009
Table Carbon 126 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: JammyJenny ( $1,838 )
Seat 2: grudev ( $1,077 )
Seat 3: touten ( $1,247.49 )
Seat 4: tksmate ( $1,010 )
Seat 5: alfadog ( $1,328.25 )
Seat 6: powcow ( $1,000 )
alfadog posts small blind [$5]
powcow posts big blind [$10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
JammyJenny raises to [$35]
grudev calls [$35]
touten folds
tksmate folds
alfadog folds
powcow calls [$25]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
powcow checks
JammyJenny bets [$70]
grudev calls [$70]
powcow folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
JammyJenny checks
grudev bets [$135]
JammyJenny raises to [$345]
grudev calls [$210]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
JammyJenny goes all-in
JammyJenny bets [$1,388]
grudev calls [$627]
grudev goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$761] to JammyJenny
** Showdown **
JammyJenny shows [ , ] a pair of Eights
grudev shows [ , ] three of a kind, Threes
** Hand Conclusion **
grudev wins $2,191 from main pot with three of a kind, Threes
************  Game 548586450 ends  ************

villian is playing? and style?

turn c/r puts u in a horrible spot dude, but tbh u know that already. Hows 5/10 been going?

[810ofclubs]

Learn to read boards and recognise that u could be drawing dead when a fish checkraises you on the turn.

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 548599743 *****
NL $5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 14, 18:33:34 GMT 2009
Table Carbon 124 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: BeMyButler ( $1,726.83 )
Seat 2: silly123 ( $1,394.50 )
Seat 3: saccomano ( $1,000 )
Seat 4: alfadog ( $1,959 )
Seat 5: __data__ ( $500 )
Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $1,063 )
BeMyButler posts small blind [$5]
silly123 posts big blind [$10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
saccomano folds
alfadog folds
JammyJenny raises to [$35]
BeMyButler calls [$30]
silly123 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
BeMyButler checks
JammyJenny bets [$52]
BeMyButler calls [$52]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
BeMyButler checks
JammyJenny bets [$145]
BeMyButler raises to [$350]
JammyJenny calls [$205]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
BeMyButler bets [$990]
JammyJenny calls [$626]
JammyJenny goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$364] to BeMyButler
** Showdown **
BeMyButler shows [ , ] full house, Fours full of Aces
JammyJenny shows [ , ] a straight, Ace to Ten
** Hand Conclusion **
BeMyButler wins $2,133 from main pot with full house, Fours full of Aces
************  Game 548599743 ends  ************

BeMyButler is a scandie fish tbf but this is spew call on the turn dude with only 626 behind

[810ofclubs]

plain spew

Full Tilt Poker Game #13393369000: $50,000 Guarantee (98237151), Table 25 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:43:08 ET - 2009/07/14
Seat 1: exxplicit (10,265)
Seat 2: NeverScaredB (9,254)
Seat 3: sou brasileiro (5,560)
Seat 4: IRiverYou1 (22,211)
Seat 5: oripok (9,373)
Seat 6: Luho Pickle (5,130)
Seat 7: Homungus (7,430)
Seat 8: The Norse Horse (15,929)
Seat 9: iPrintM0ney_ (10,708)
exxplicit antes 50
NeverScaredB antes 50
sou brasileiro antes 50
IRiverYou1 antes 50
oripok antes 50
Luho Pickle antes 50
Homungus antes 50
The Norse Horse antes 50
iPrintM0ney_ antes 50
Luho Pickle posts the small blind of 200
Homungus posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Norse Horse [ ]
The Norse Horse raises to 1,000
iPrintM0ney_ folds
exxplicit calls 1,000
NeverScaredB folds
sou brasileiro folds
IRiverYou1 folds
oripok folds
Luho Pickle folds
Homungus folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
The Norse Horse checks
exxplicit bets 1,600
The Norse Horse raises to 3,600
exxplicit has 15 seconds left to act
exxplicit raises to 9,215, and is all in
The Norse Horse folds
Uncalled bet of 5,615 returned to exxplicit
exxplicit mucks
exxplicit wins the pot (10,250)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10,250 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: exxplicit collected (10,250), mucked
Seat 2: NeverScaredB folded before the Flop
Seat 3: sou brasileiro folded before the Flop
Seat 4: IRiverYou1 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: oripok (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Luho Pickle (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Homungus (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: The Norse Horse folded on the Flop
Seat 9: iPrintM0ney_ folded before the Flop

I dont open here cause of btn, sb and bb having reship stacks, prolly a leak of mine tbh.

c/r flop seems weird because the boards so drawy, prolly works a gd % of the time but ur trying to rep the draw he has i imagine AJhh etc, fold pre imo if not bet fold flop.

[810ofclubs]

can i get bk to playin badly myself now pls?

[AlexMartin]

Learn to read boards and recognise that u could be drawing dead when a fish checkraises you on the turn.

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 548599743 *****
NL $5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 14, 18:33:34 GMT 2009
Table Carbon 124 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: BeMyButler ( $1,726.83 )
Seat 2: silly123 ( $1,394.50 )
Seat 3: saccomano ( $1,000 )
Seat 4: alfadog ( $1,959 )
Seat 5: __data__ ( $500 )
Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $1,063 )
BeMyButler posts small blind [$5]
silly123 posts big blind [$10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
saccomano folds
alfadog folds
JammyJenny raises to [$35]
BeMyButler calls [$30]
silly123 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
BeMyButler checks
JammyJenny bets [$52]
BeMyButler calls [$52]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
BeMyButler checks
JammyJenny bets [$145]
BeMyButler raises to [$350]
JammyJenny calls [$205]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
BeMyButler bets [$990]
JammyJenny calls [$626]
JammyJenny goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$364] to BeMyButler
** Showdown **
BeMyButler shows [ , ] full house, Fours full of Aces
JammyJenny shows [ , ] a straight, Ace to Ten
** Hand Conclusion **
BeMyButler wins $2,133 from main pot with full house, Fours full of Aces
************  Game 548599743 ends  ************

BeMyButler is a scandie fish tbf but this is spew call on the turn dude with only 626 behind

is it that awful? like he was playing pretty laggy and i saw no houses in his range, like K4s posssiiiiblly. Pot on turn is 700ish , 200 more to me. Its prolly a fold but i dunno if spew.

TBH he was nuts and i put him on teh KJ so thought i had perfect implied. Holdon......

8 outs once so 16%. Lets say 2 of my outs are dirty (clubs lol) and go 12% of the time i bink and get paid in full. Pretty sure thats an OK but imperfect assumption given hes a tard and wont be able to fold river.


So the times i call and stack him i win:-

Pot = 0.12*900= 108

Plus implied= 0.12*626= 75

= 183




And the times i call and lose after giving up is like:-

0.88*200= 176


Is that right? Seems right. Not thaaatttt bad, although i guess we tweak the assumptions and its a mistake for sure.

[810ofclubs]

Not spew mate, -ev though.

[Royal Flush]

Did you consider a raise on the turn because of the draw heavy board?  Why didn't you raise, was it mainly about pot control?

I don't think he has a draw very often, he has check min raised the flop and now fires the turn, its pretty rare they have a draw here, i didnt think i was ahead often enough to get this in.

ok this is weird he isnt gunna bluff of all his chips 1st hand hopefully so his value range for min raising flop and betting turn and river is AJ, KJ, QJ, J10, AKss, KQss, 89ss, 1010, 66, AA(hopefully not but seen worse), JJ and i may hav missed a couple but i think this range of hands hands is too big for you to be calling river with. Pls do stove if any1 can b bothered. I guess u should fold cause i think he always has u beat. Im going with 89ss??

Yeah i couldnt really seeing him check min raising top pair for value and i couldnt see him firing 2 more streets with AA, i made a pretty bad call i think as it happens he had A8o.....