45man final table line check

[thetank]

45 person STT, top 6 paid. Action is 5-handed on final table here.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13304984496: $24 + $2 Sit & Go (98549554), Table 5 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:20:05 ET - 2009/07/10
Seat 3: PNBRAZIL (11,640)
Seat 4: HERO (17,265)
Seat 5: Nene36 (21,160)
Seat 7: HOLLANDHOPE (9,825)
Seat 8: chuchulandio (7,610)
HOLLANDHOPE posts the small blind of 500
chuchulandio posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [ ]
PNBRAZIL folds
HERO raises to 2,500
Nene36 calls 2,500
HOLLANDHOPE folds
chuchulandio folds
PNBRAZIL has been disconnected
*** FLOP *** [ ]
HERO bets 2,500
Nene36 calls 2,500
*** TURN *** [ ] []
HERO bets 12,265, and is all in


Read on opponent is that he is less than solid, have been fairly loose pre playing lots of pots but not putting pressure on opposition.  Would expect his range for flatting me pre to be quite wide but nothing too crazy, Ax but not Kx.

I bet small on flop hoping to induce opponent over the top.
I bet max on turn as pot is massive crucial and I want to price draws out if possible.

Would you play it different?

[dousche]

are you passing to the BB preflop? id go like 3.5-4k personally as i think the button rarely ships it light and taking down lots of pots uncontested is the way foward in these comps imo - also reduces the number of times we play a flop oop.

as far as the turn is concerned, i dont shove personally. i think i prefer 4.5-5k then the rest on the end. his calling range of 2.5k on the flop is be super-wide (any k/t/8/pp/draw). at this stage i dont think he's gonna be calling down with a naked flush draw and you've got the  so you're in massive shape here and just want to give him the best chance of getting them in.

[pokerfan]

are you passing to the BB preflop? id go like 3.5-4k personally as i think the button rarely ships it light and taking down lots of pots uncontested is the way foward in these comps imo - also reduces the number of times we play a flop oop.

as far as the turn is concerned, i dont shove personally. i think i prefer 4.5-5k then the rest on the end. his calling range of 2.5k on the flop is be super-wide (any k/t/8/pp/draw). at this stage i dont think he's gonna be calling down with a naked flush draw and you've got the  so you're in massive shape here and just want to give him the best chance of getting them in.

Sharkscope villain then rethink your answer.
Raise size is fine.
Just get it in Tank, there`s only 1 box for this lad. He will probably call 79/J9/any flush draw/any2/any8/any10/anyK.
(A2?)

[daviebhoy]

Its a funny one, I can see arguments for smaller bet on turn but I actually think the best way to get it all in here is to check the turn I know giving the free card is bad here but if we are concerned only with getting all the money in and not wanting villain to fold then I check turn. I probably bet half-pot here though in reality.

[gatso]

confused by your bet sizings

you price draws in when the board is fairly wet and then decide to price draws out when the turn bricks. why?

[boldie]

Raise pre is fine...flop a bit small  (3.5-4k for me) but you're selling it as a continuation bet I guess so OK. turn shove...yeah might as well as there;s plenty in the pot and only betting 5k would look suspicious.

[Longy]

That is my exact raise size pre, make it more on the flop so you have a less than pot size bet back on the turn. The majority of poor villians will pay more to draw on the flop, so I wouldn't be worried about the pushing them out of the pot.

[thetank]

are you passing to the BB preflop?

defo not.

[thetank]

confused by your bet sizings

you price draws in when the board is fairly wet and then decide to price draws out when the turn bricks. why?

My flop bet was probably a mistake in hindsight, wrong villain. I wanted to look weak and induce a shove but opponent had not previously exhibited that kind of aggression.

If I could play the hand again I would defo bet more on flop.


The turn shove is because the pot size is now t11,500 and so represents a signifacant chunk of the total amount in play. I no longer wanted to eek max value, just maximizing the % of the time I get pushed the pot because of chip utility of having such a stack. Too nitty?

[MC]

confused by your bet sizings

you price draws in when the board is fairly wet and then decide to price draws out when the turn bricks. why?

This

3k the flop, 6k on the turn or something like that.

Don't like the shove as it just lets him off the hook with so much. Bet like 4/5 of the pot if you want to price out draws...

[Amatay]

i sometimes check the turn just to let him bluff off his stack and hope he doesnt hit his draw, if he has one that is

[LuckyLloyd]

You must bet more on the flop. One of the advantages of doing so is that a turn shove will be for less than the total pot. It's just easier to get the money in with a proper flop bet. Moreover, if you were c - betting as a bluff you'd bet more. And c - betting different sizes for different parts of your range is bad.

[dousche]

are you passing to the BB preflop?

defo not.

id probably make the raise bigger pre then to reduce the times he shoves on you - so he knows that he's calling all in rather than thinking he's shoving on you

[gatso]

are you passing to the BB preflop?

defo not.

id probably make the raise bigger pre then to reduce the times he shoves on you - so he knows that he's calling all in rather than thinking he's shoving on you

fair enough if we're hu but we still have the cl to act behind us

[dousche]

are you passing to the BB preflop?

defo not.

id probably make the raise bigger pre then to reduce the times he shoves on you - so he knows that he's calling all in rather than thinking he's shoving on you

fair enough if we're hu but we still have the cl to act behind us

we dont have room to pass?? that and we dont want him flatting the raise. obviously if he's any good we cant make such transparent adjustments but this is a $26 sng, players are loathed to get their chips involved with a bluff. i think i go 3.5k