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« on: July 15, 2009, 10:20:40 PM »

Playing a 5/10 cash game at Venetian on a pretty soft table.  I have raised to $40 UTG with KJ and picked up a caller on the button, who briefly thought about re raising pre and call from both the blinds.

Flop  three clubs , both blinds check and I lead for $120 and everyone calls.

Turn   so again I lead for $410 and get the one caller on the button.

After the call he leaves himself $820.  River brings an ugly   and its on me to act first.  What should my play be?

Myself and the guy had a little history but nothing too major, he had been quite quiet and mainly a calling station.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 10:32:10 PM »

Check fold.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 11:11:17 PM »

check fold? why?
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 11:12:28 PM »

because everything just got there?
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 11:18:01 PM »

check fold? why?

We can't beat anything that plays the hand like this
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 11:24:30 PM »

man i dunno, need to know more about the villan, cant see him having 33 88 910 suppose he could have aj surely hed raise qq akc ?
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 11:27:39 PM »

You are not beating much on the river - 99/TT/AK/AQ/A8/JT ? I think greekstein has got it about right with check/fold. I can't see any of the hands you beat betting the river very often.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 11:30:07 PM »

man i dunno, need to know more about the villan, cant see him having 33 88 910 suppose he could have aj surely hed raise qq akc ?

He doesn't move in on river with QQ. Prob just knuckles back, that is if he's bad enough to call QQ when Neil bet's turn.

910 got there, flushes got there. Sets are crushing us though I can't see him ever having a set obv. AJ and QJ beat us. What do you think he's betting here?
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 11:38:11 PM »

eh? why would check bk with qq he has basically the nuts, i cant see what flush cards hed have apart from akc but ud think hed raise that pre and calling the turn with that isnt great i dont think, cant see him ever thinking about raising pre and then just calling  33 88 910 or qj either
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 11:55:30 PM »

fire a blocker ?
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 03:07:05 AM »

greenstein just nailed it. /thread. sick sick river.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2009, 09:04:18 AM »

Do you crying call a small value bet?

Did you have to swallow some vomit after that river?

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 09:32:29 AM »

fire a blocker ?

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greeKstein just nailed it. /thread. sick sick river.

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Do you crying call a small value bet?

Did you have to swallow some vomit after that river?



His value bet is very very unlikely to be anything other than all in with his stack size and what's in the pot so we probably can't call any bet he's likely to make BUT we obv sigh and call a few hundred dollars if he makes a gay bet.

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 10:03:53 AM »

eh? why would check bk with qq he has basically the nuts, i cant see what flush cards hed have apart from akc but ud think hed raise that pre and calling the turn with that isnt great i dont think, cant see him ever thinking about raising pre and then just calling  33 88 910 or qj either

comment on this greekstein?
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 10:19:44 AM »

eh? why would check bk with qq he has basically the nuts, i cant see what flush cards hed have apart from akc but ud think hed raise that pre and calling the turn with that isnt great i dont think, cant see him ever thinking about raising pre and then just calling  33 88 910 or qj either

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Sorry I meant overpairs, just forgot it was a queen that hit the river. I prob meant he knuckles AA and KK.

When Neil leads the turn for just under pot once the second jack hits its kinda obv he has a huge hand (prob a jack, though I guess 33 and 88 do the same). All 3 players have called his flop bet so Neil can't lead the turn when the jack hits without a monster, which he has at that point.
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