did i play this right?

[Ironside]

my read on oppo is that he has  Ax i waited till turn to shove so that i had a better chance of the double up

should i be check raising the flop and taking it down there and then?



PokerStars Game #30604251992: Tournament #178348634, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/07/18 20:28:21 WET [2009/07/18 15:28:21 ET]
Table '178348634 131' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: cyrusboy (15032 in chips)
Seat 2: amenda666 (14579 in chips)
Seat 3: kummherdo (8070 in chips)
Seat 4: JLJK3 (11300 in chips)
Seat 5: diesetter246 (4590 in chips)
Seat 6: djonkoboy (15450 in chips)
Seat 7: gototown (5575 in chips)
Seat 8: Dyl Griff (4320 in chips)
Seat 9: Ironside (7865 in chips)
Ironside: posts small blind 75
cyrusboy: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [ ]
amenda666: folds
kummherdo: folds
JLJK3: folds
diesetter246: calls 150
djonkoboy: calls 150
gototown: folds
Dyl Griff: folds
Ironside: calls 75
cyrusboy: raises 750 to 900
diesetter246: folds
djonkoboy: folds
Ironside: calls 750
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Ironside: checks
cyrusboy: bets 1500
Ironside: calls 1500
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Ironside: bets 5465 and is all-in
cyrusboy: calls 5465

[bolt pp]

fold pre

[LeKnave]

lol yeah the peel pre is tez.

[Autobetkev]

[ ] yes you played it perfectly

• fold pre

[boldie]

Pre is bad..very bad.

Turn is bad as well. I hate check calling the flop and then pushing the turn. What do you think oppo is going to do there when he doesn't have Ax (or even a weak Ax)? Why not check to him again hoping he fires another bet?

[EvilPie]

It's already been said mate but fold pre definitely.

Calling off 10% of your stack out of position with KQ off is unlikely to reap rewards.

As played lead the flop. His raise usually means AK, 10 10 or JJ to me. Hope it's AK and he shoves your lead. If it's JJ you're not getting paid much more unless he c bets and you're certainly not getting your double up.

[GreekStein]

  [ X ] Good Call  

   [ X ] Good Call  

  [ X ] Good Call  

  [ X ] Good Call  

  [  ] Good Call

[david3103]

  [ X ] Good Call  

   [ X ] Good Call  

  [ X ] Good Call  

  [ X ] Good Call  

  [  ] Good Call

Really? Surely suitedness adds so little to the hand and even if you flop a flush it's only second nuts

( or have I misunderstood the [ ] thing again?)

[GreekStein]

   [ X ] Good Call 

    [ X ] Good Call 

   [ X ] Good Call 

   [ X ] Good Call 

   [  ] Good Call

Really? Surely suitedness adds so little to the hand and even if you flop a flush it's only second nuts

( or have I misunderstood the [ ] thing again?)

Suitedness is the nutssssss. Increases by like 15% and looks so so pretty

[kukushkin88]

(  ) Increases by 15% against any hand
( X ) Increases by between 2-4% depending on opponents hand

[AlexMartin]

(  ) Increases by 15% against any hand
( X ) Increases by between 2-4% depending on opponents hand

increases the opportunity of flopping high equity DRAWS!

suitedness matters

no more boxes

[bolt pp]

[  X                  ] everyone is fcking up their boxes

[GreekStein]

(  ) Increases by 15% against any hand
( X ) Increases by between 2-4% depending on opponents hand

Please tell me you didn't think I was serious

[kukushkin88]

I thought/hoped ;-) you weren't serious but on a learning board it's important to have fairly accurate info to balance the levelling.

[EvilPie]

Alex needs to come back on now and pretend he was joking as well.