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« Reply #300 on: August 23, 2009, 02:50:20 PM » |
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utter nonsense. so if the judges had spotted it you would presumably be happy with the way we earned the medal?
so to you the validity of the medal depends on whether or not the judge spots an infringement
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« Reply #301 on: August 23, 2009, 02:51:23 PM » |
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Why is competing against another team a bad thing all of a sudden?
Precisely my point. |
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« Reply #302 on: August 23, 2009, 02:53:50 PM » |
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The question for me is WHY you stitch up the yanks.
It's all well and good acting noble now that we've won but I dont for one second believe this was done to "play by the rules". It was done to win a medal end of story. I'd rather win my medals by competing vs the very best teams. Not having the opposition removed for something a judge didn't spot.
We've not accepted a referee's judgement, gone back and studied the tape to get the yanks kicked out.
How cheap can you get?
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« Reply #303 on: August 23, 2009, 02:54:00 PM » |
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Is it grassing in tennis if someone says that their opponents serve was out when the officals rule it in.
Would a sportsman of Federer, Nadal or Murray's stature have taken this option if it meant their opponent in the final was kicked out altogether? Doubtful. |
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« Reply #304 on: August 23, 2009, 02:55:04 PM » |
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Why is competing against another team a bad thing all of a sudden?
Precisely my point. We did compete and we came in third! |
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« Reply #305 on: August 23, 2009, 02:59:10 PM » |
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Is it grassing in tennis if someone says that their opponents serve was out when the officals rule it in.
Would a sportsman of Federer, Nadal or Murray's stature have taken this option if it meant their opponent in the final was kicked out altogether? Doubtful. I can't think of many situations in tennis where this characteristic would come to the fore with the current technology, as much as I love Murray he most certainly has a win at all costs attitude imo. |
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« Reply #306 on: August 23, 2009, 03:01:13 PM » |
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Is it grassing in tennis if someone says that their opponents serve was out when the officals rule it in.
Would a sportsman of Federer, Nadal or Murray's stature have taken this option if it meant their opponent in the final was kicked out altogether? Doubtful. I can't think of many situations in tennis where this characteristic would come to the fore with the current technology, as much as I love Murray he most certainly has a win at all costs attitude imo. Fair enough. I just cant help but compare what happened to a footballer brandishing an imaginary red card to a referee. Should Rooney have been sent off vs Portugal? Yes. Does it make Ronaldo asking for it to happen correct? Not in a million years IMO. Oh but wait.... it was within the rules.... |
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« Reply #307 on: August 23, 2009, 03:02:22 PM » |
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utter nonsense. so if the judges had spotted it you would presumably be happy with the way we earned the medal?
so to you the validity of the medal depends on whether or not the judge spots an infringement
Yes to the top sentence. No to the bottom senetence. You are putting words into my mouth. surely if you're happy with the medal if the infringement is spotted and unhappy if it's not then you are judging its validity on the judge's judgement? |
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« Reply #308 on: August 23, 2009, 03:03:42 PM » |
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I watched a tennis match at Wimbledon where Federer's opponent developed an injury and Federer played shots that would cause that injury maximum stress and therefore lock in his own chance of making the next round.
It's all good within the rules of a specific sport. GB played within them in this relay race, the US did not.
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« Reply #309 on: August 23, 2009, 03:03:49 PM » |
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utter nonsense. so if the judges had spotted it you would presumably be happy with the way we earned the medal?
so to you the validity of the medal depends on whether or not the judge spots an infringement
Yes to the top sentence. No to the bottom senetence. You are putting words into my mouth. surely if you're happy with the medal if the infringement is spotted and unhappy if it's not then you are judging its validity on the judge's judgement? I never questioned the validity of the decision at any stage. It is team GB's actions I am discussing only. |
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« Reply #310 on: August 23, 2009, 03:05:02 PM » |
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I watched a tennis match at Wimbledon where Federer's opponent developed an injury and Federer played shots that would cause that injury maximum stress and therefore lock in his own chance of making the next round.
It's all good within the rules of a specific sport. GB played within them in this relay race, the US did not.
That's fine - well done us. It doesn't surprise me that we're a second rate sprinting nation. |
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« Reply #311 on: August 23, 2009, 03:06:42 PM » |
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We sure are a second rate sprinting nation.
We sure haven't amassed a pretty impressive collection of medals of all colours in sprinting, sprint relay and sprint hurdling events in the Olympics and World Championships within our lifetimes.
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« Reply #312 on: August 23, 2009, 03:07:22 PM » |
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The yank ran over the line and you're not allowed to do that.
err, again, no he didn't the D Q was for the baton being passed prior to it entering the passing zone btw, the IAAF did not give a reason for rejecting the US's appeal and it's looking now like it may well have made a wrong decision, the changeove was borderline but there's probably not clear enough evidence for a D Q |
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« Reply #313 on: August 23, 2009, 03:33:00 PM » |
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Is it grassing in tennis if someone says that their opponents serve was out when the officals rule it in.
Would a sportsman of Federer, Nadal or Murray's stature have taken this option if it meant their opponent in the final was kicked out altogether? Doubtful. I can't think of many situations in tennis where this characteristic would come to the fore with the current technology, as much as I love Murray he most certainly has a win at all costs attitude imo. What if someone on the internet makes an arbitary distinction as to something he has done being a bit off. How will he live with himself? I guess this is why sportsmen need paying so much. |
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« Reply #314 on: August 23, 2009, 03:36:23 PM » |
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Is it grassing in tennis if someone says that their opponents serve was out when the officals rule it in.
Would a sportsman of Federer, Nadal or Murray's stature have taken this option if it meant their opponent in the final was kicked out altogether? Doubtful. I can't think of many situations in tennis where this characteristic would come to the fore with the current technology, as much as I love Murray he most certainly has a win at all costs attitude imo. What if someone on the internet makes an arbitary distinction as to something he has done being a bit off. How will he live with himself? I guess this is why sportsmen need paying so much. Well I have started ignoring Roger's texts and i am sure he will get over it. |
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