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« on: August 15, 2009, 06:05:45 PM » |
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP3 (t7060) CO (t5990) Hero (Button) (t5110) Villain (SB) (t8380) BB (t6130) UTG (t7320) UTG+1 (t6120) MP1 (t3980) MP2 (t5000) Hero's M: 113.56Preflop: Hero is Button with   UTG bets t60, UTG+1 calls t60, 2 folds, MP3 calls t60, CO calls t60, Hero calls t60, Villain calls t45, BB calls t30 Flop: (t420)    (7 players)Villain bets t780, 3 folds, MP3 calls t780, 1 fold, Hero  Ignoring the fact that despite being on the button multiway, our idiot Hero (not me or Joobs) has flatted the button with a Queen and a Queen, how would you play this hand now? I see this quite a bit, massive flop donk overbets on interesting boards... |
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$muszlesz$
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 07:40:49 PM » |
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so u just call on the button here surely u must 3 or 4 bet here |
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KarmaDope
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 07:47:24 PM » |
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Yes, I know this lol. However, the way the hand plays out later on is directly related to the stupid flat call preflop by the guy who's hand it was (not mine lol), hence why I'm asking what you would do in this exact situation.
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boldie
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 07:54:11 PM » |
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noone takes you for this big a hand now..get them all in the middle..and start up a new tourney whilst cursing yourself for calling on the button.
Either that or just fold it and curse at yourself for calling on the button.
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Jon MW
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 07:56:10 PM » |
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noone takes you for this big a hand now..get them all in the middle..and start up a new tourney whilst cursing yourself for calling on the button.
Either that or just fold it and curse at yourself for calling on the button.
the blinds are 15 30 and you've got 5k ish - are your only options really just all in or fold? |
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Jon "the British cowboy" Woodfield
2011 blonde MTT League August Champion
2011 UK Team Championships: Black Belt Poker Team Captain - - runners up - -
5 Star HORSE Classic - 2007 Razz Champion
2007 WSOP Razz - 13/341
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$muszlesz$
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 08:09:49 PM » |
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lol misread that u had put it wasnt u...the standard of play in theese 11 dollar deepstacks are terrible to be fair he probably would of still got this much action if u 3 or 4 bet pre because they think they have 100s of bbs and a half hour clock
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boldie
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 08:20:38 PM » |
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noone takes you for this big a hand now..get them all in the middle..and start up a new tourney whilst cursing yourself for calling on the button.
Either that or just fold it and curse at yourself for calling on the button.
the blinds are 15 30 and you've got 5k ish - are your only options really just all in or fold? Not really, you could flat and fold the nasty turn. You could re-raise to 2k and then put your remaining 3k in on the turn when he flats your re-raise and checks to you on the turn. You could re-raise to 2k'ish and call or fold when he shoves his chips in the middle. I am thinking that flatting is not the best option here...you're probably ahead now...so raise to 2k ...call his shove and cry when you get done. |
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titaniumbean
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 09:16:11 PM » |
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If we weren't capable of raising for value pre, how are we considering stacking off here with no reads/info or idea what a double pot sized cbet from utg means.
What i'm trying to say is in answer to your question if I ever had reason to flat QQ pre with these stacks i'd be folding the flop to this action without a better read.
RR PRE FTW.
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GreekStein
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2009, 09:58:52 PM » |
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Wham bam strawberry jam.
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mondatoo
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 01:56:33 AM » |
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Yes, I know this lol. However, the way the hand plays out later on is directly related to the stupid flat call preflop by the guy who's hand it was (not mine lol), hence why I'm asking what you would do in this exact situation.
But we would never be in this exact situation as we'd hopefully never be bad enough to play so bad pre |
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Horneris
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 02:54:55 AM » |
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"We'll win next week".
"If in doubt, kick it out".
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scotty2hatty
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 10:23:48 AM » |
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so u just call on the button here surely u must 3 or 4 bet here lol - how do u decide whether to 3 or 4 bet? |
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outragous76
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 11:41:29 AM » |
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you just 3 bet then add one obv............ durr
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dousche
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 02:14:12 AM » |
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[ ] as played we should be looking to get all our chips in the middle.
SB leads for 3x the pot. who knows what he's got? i fancy that we're ahead of his range here (probably JT or something equally tez) - but MP calls for 3x the pot. alarm bells ringing yet? although its possible that he has the flush draw and is an absolute noob we surely have to give him respect for a set here and gtfo.
i fold
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dousche
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 02:15:40 AM » |
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so u just call on the button here surely u must 3 or 4 bet here posting the blind is the first bet opening raise is the second bet reraising is the third bet (3-betting) rereraising is the fourth (hence the 4-bet) here hero would be 3betting |
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